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Minutes
IAB Teleconference

12 August 2003

ATTENDING

APOLOGIES

NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING

AGENDA

  1. Roll call, Agenda Bash and Previous Minutes
  2. Review of Action Items
  3. Review of Documents
  4. IAB Liaison Reports
  5. Updates from IETF Liaisons
  6. Review of proposal for IAB activities
  7. Review of draft-baker-liaisons document
  8. Review of proposal for scoped addressing architecture discussion forum
  9. Discussion of IAB Plenary meeting formats
  10. Other Business

NOTES

  1. Roll call, Agenda Bash and Previous Minutes

  2. Review of Action Items

  3. Review of Documents

  4. IAB Liaison Reports

      IESG
      Rob Austein:, Bert Wijnen:

      • IESG has a small team that is currently testing online balloting tool. Should improve the quality and the speed of IESG balloting.
      • IESG is internally discussing various ideas on reorganization of processes. As soon as there is reasonable consensus, the ideas are intended to show up as I-Ds.
      • Currently there are two appeals on the IESG table:
        • one by Todd Glassey, appealing Harald's decision to suspend his posting rights to IPR WG mailing list (not yet on web site)
        • one by Tony Hain, appealing the INT ADs for agreeing that the IPv6 WG chairs properly handled consensus forming to deprecate Site Local (on web site)
        The IESG still needs to discuss both appeals.
      • The IESG has agreed on a more streamlined process on how to ask architectural questions from IAB. This has been passed to the IAB for comment.

          The IAB noted its general agreement with this proposal, with the understanding that if the IESG elected to nominate particular IAB members to undertake such activities, this would be interpreted as a recommendation to the IAB Chair.

      • IESG and RFC-Editor have agreed to copy authors/editors when IESG sends a DNP (Do No Publish) advise to RFC-Editor for individual submissions coming in via RFC-Editor. This should make things yet more transparent.
      • IESG discussed Eric's "boxes and arrows" protocol models document and believe that this approach has merit.

          The IAB will consider whether to develop this document in the context of an IAB document.

      RFC Editor
      Joyce Reynolds:

      1. The RFC Editor is now using Bill Fenner's wdiff script. We are providing the three color diff to the authors during our AUTH48 process.

      2. The RFC Editor believes that 2223bis is ready for publication. We are waiting for final review and feedback from Harald and Leslie before we proceed. We feel that this document will always be a moving target and will never be complete. However, we would like to publish ASAP.

        It should be noted that the RFC Editor would like to publish 2223bis as an Informational RFC, instead of a BCP, as stated in the Last Call. Through our liaison efforts with Harald, we have been discussing this change. The history of this document has always been an administrative one and we would like to continue to keep it at an informational level.

      IRTF
      Vern Paxson:

      • No Items to Report

      ISOC
      Lynn St Amour:

      • No Items to Report

  5. Updates from IETF Liaisons

      ITU-T
      Scott Bradner:

      • It was reported that there is some consideration within the ITU-T on reviewing the number and focus areas of the Study Groups

      W3C
      Leslie Daigle:

      • No Items to Report

      ICANN - TLG
      Geoff Huston:, Mike St Johns

      • No Items to Report

      ICANN - Liaison to the Board
      John Klensin:

      • The ICANN Board has had two teleconferences, one to elect officers and create Board committees and one to discuss a non-technical matter relating to the terms and conditions of a TLD registry operation.

      RSSAC
      Rob Austein:

      • No Items to Report

  6. WG Tracking

      The IAB reviewed a proposal to circulate periodic updates on WG issues between IAB members. It was agreed to commence this by circulating post-IETF status reports within the IAB.

      The IAB reviewed a proposal to track open architectural issues through the maintenance of a web-based resource page. This was adopted by the IAB and a page describing "Open Architectural Issues in the Development of the Internet" will be maintained by the IAB as a public resource.

  7. Review of draft-baker-liaisons document

      The IAB reviewed the Internet Draft draft-baker-liaisons-00. The IAB noted a number of comments regarding the draft that will be communicated to the authors. The IAB also noted a number of procedural matters regarding the management of liaison activities and these matters will be raised with the IESG and the IETF Secretariat for further consideration.

  8. Review of proposal for scoped addressing architecture discussion forum

      The IAB reviewed the draft charter for Scoped Address Architecture Discussion. The charter was approved and the forum will be established at the start of September.

  9. IAB Plenary meeting format

      The IAB reviewed the Plenary format currently being used for IETF meetings. It was noted that there are a number of formal items of business in terms of reports that are included in the plenary agenda, as well as some effort to expose some aspects of protocol architecture that are anticipated to be of relatively general interest, as well as including time for feedback and comment from the IETF itself. Some alternative formats were discussed by the IAB, and these will be discussed with the IESG.

  10. Other Business

      9.1 IPR Issues raised regarding RFC 3552

        The IAB decided to pass the IAB's response to David Jablon to the IPR WG for information. The IAB decided to take into consideration any consensus outcomes from the IPR WG, if the WG takes on this matter, in determining what advice should be offered regarding any further actions to remedy the complaint.

      9.2 Followup with ISOC on organizational issues

        The IAB approved the formation of an advisory committee to assist the chairs of the IETF and IAB in reviewing the organizational issues associated with the functions of the IETF.

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