IAB Teleconference 13 July 2004 _________________________________________________________________ ATTENDING Leslie Daigle -- IAB Chair Bernard Aboba Harald Alvestrand -- IETF/IESG Chair Rob Austein Sally Floyd Jun-ichiro Itojun Hagino Geoff Huston Eric Rescorla Jonathan Rosenberg Bert Wijnen -- Liaison from the IESG Vern Paxson -- IRTF Chair Joyce Reynolds -- Liaison from the RFC Editor APOLOGIES Patrik Faltstrom Bob Hinden Mark Handley Pete Resnick Lynn St. Amour -- Liaison from ISOC NEXT SCHEDULED MEETINGS IETF 60, Sunday, 1 August, 2004 _________________________________________________________________ AGENDA 0. Roll call, Agenda Bash and Previous Minutes 1. Review of Action Items 2. Review of Documents 3. IAB Liaison Reports 4. Updates from IETF Liaisons 5. ITU Responses concerning ENUM Instructions 6. Proposed IPv6 allocation ad hoc IAB advisory committee 7. Finalizing topics for San Diego meetings 8. Liaison Reporting to the IAB 9. Other Regular Business a. SECSAC Report b. IANA Reverse Delegation c. IPv6 ULA drafts d. Open Source implementations of *RP functionality _________________________________________________________________ NOTES 0. Roll call, Agenda Bash and Previous Minutes Minutes of the 8 June teleconference were approved. 1. Review of Action Items (see below) 2. Review of Documents (see below) 3. IAB Liaison Reports IESG Rob Austein, Bert Wijnen: - RFC3667 and RFC3668 have some minor issues. Work has commenced to rectify these issues, and publish this as new RFCs as soon as possible. - New I-Ds are now required to have new RFC3668 boiler plate, as per announcement: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf-announce/current/msg00244.html Unfortunately this is resulting in some I-Ds not being accepted, and in some cases a clear explanation of the reasons for this action is not being provided to the submitter. [Note: This procedure was amended to be effective post IETF60] - Mail handling for most IETF hosted mailing lists (including IESG list) is currently experiencing a high delay in redistribution to the list. IESG is monitoring (Bill Fenner) and alerting secretariat about the situation. Some configuration problems have been located and corrected, and further work is underway to implement a mail support configuration which should not experience these delays. The implementation schedule is not yet firm, but should be known soon. RFC Editor Joyce Reynolds: No items to report IRTF Vern Paxson: - The Host Identity Protocol Research Group has been chartered. - The chair of the Anti-Spam Research Group (John Levine) will give an overview presentation at the San Diego IETF meeting plenary. ISOC Lynn St Amour: No items to report Administrative Restructuring Leslie Daigle No items to report 4. Updates from IETF Liaisons ITU-T Scott Bradner: No items to report W3C Leslie Daigle: No items to report ICANN - TLG Geoff Huston:, Rob Austein No items to report ICANN - Liaison to the Board John Klensin: No items to report RSSAC Rob Austein: - IANA delegation procedure for IPv6 "glue" RRs in the root zone has been announced. IANA is now looking at the queue of requests for IPv6 glue from TLD managers; barring last minute surprises, first insertion of AAAA RRs into the root zone is expected to occur in the very near future. IEEE 802 Bernard Aboba - The IETF has now completed all documents requested by IEEE 802, with a single exception. A revision of this document is anticipated to address IETF review comments. - IEEE 802 has been considering how to address the task of standardization of network selection. It is noted that there have been submissions to the IETF on this topic, and IEEE 802 will be sending a liaison note to the IETF concerning a proposed approach of coordination between IEEE 802 and the IETF on standardization of this function. 5. ITU Responses concerning ENUM Instructions The IAB considered recent ITU-T SG2 liaison statements of May 2004 concerning ENUM, and endorsed responses to the outstanding matters such that the IPR statements are filed with the IETF, the current operational management procedures are reaffirmed, and that clarifications regarding instructions to the RIPE NCC are issued in accordance with these procedures. 6. Proposed IPv6 allocation ad hoc IAB advisory committee The IAB agreed to the formation of an ad hoc IAB advisory committee to develop advice to the IAB on matters relating to IPv6. 7. IETF 60 Arrangements The IAB finalized its agenda for IETF 60. Technical topics to be examined are: Identity and IPv6 and Multi6 Untangling ALGs, NATs Firewalls, IPv6 transition mechanisms and Application behaviors The Thursday IAB session will include: IRTF RG review IAB Security Workshop Revisited 8. Liaison Reporting to the IAB The IAB endorsed adoption of a procedure that will enable all IETF liaisons to report regularly to the IESG and IAB on matters of relevance to the liaison arrangements. 9. Other Regular Business a. SECSAC Report The IAB noted the recommendations of the July 2004 ICANN SECSAC report (http://www.icann.org/committees/security/ssac-report-09jul04.pdf) The IAB determined that there were no actions arising from this report at this point in time. b. IANA Reverse Delegation A reminder will be forwarded to the IANA concerning outstanding delegation requests for ip6.arpa c. IPv6 ULA drafts The IAB considered the implications of the UIPv6 ULA drafts, and requested a group to brief the IAB in terms of the operational and architectural aspects of deployment of this form of address space. d. Open Source implementations of *RP functionality The IAB proposed to investigate whether there was a process failure in this matter, on the basis that the open source community response to the IAB's query included the claim that their attempts to obtain a protocol number through the process resulted in no response. The IAB will follow up with the IANA and the IESG over the process used and actions taken with the processing of the application for registration of port numbers _________________________________________________________________ ACTIONS IDN Geoff Huston [Feb-03] [current Status: Coordinate preparatory work for a possible IAB 'virtual' workshop on IDN and related matters -> Compile a list of questions to be addressed in the context of a workshop -> Leslie, Patrik and John Klensin to review -> Prepare workshop plan for IAB approval OMA Liaison Geoff Huston [Sep-03] [current Status: Conclude liaison framework document. Draft has been reviewed by liaison team, IETF Legal Council, and has been circulated to IESG and IAB. -> Pass proposed liaison document to OMA ID / Locator Architectural Consideration Geoff Huston [Jan-04] [current Status: Multi6 is working in the context of a small design team to refine wedge layer 3.5 analysis and define requires functions and components. There are architectural implications of this approach that may merit IAB study. -> Prepare material for IAB technical session at IETF 60. The issues to be covered include the nature of this identity space, its structure and intended level of persistence and associated resolution mechanisms, and implications beyond multi-homing. Consideration of the merits of further IAB study as a major architectural topic in the coming months. IAB Messaging Workshop Pete Resnick [Apr-04] [current Status: Preparation -> Scheduling: late August / Early September; Proposed location: North America -> Pre-workshop report tasks being assigned to participants *RP protocol parameter value Eric Rescorla, Leslie Daigle, Geoff Huston [Apr-04] [current Status: Query the Open Source developers over choice of protocol parameter values for open source versions of redundancy protocol implementation -> Undertake review - followup with IANA and IESG over the process used for this application and the outcomes that were reached and the reason for these outcomes -> Inform Open Source contact that the IAB is conducting a review of the original application to see if there was a failure of the protocol parameter registration process in this instance. IPv6 Policies Geoff Huston, Bob Hinden, Patrik Faltstrom [May-04] [current Status: Draft IAB Considerations note on current IPv6 allocation metrics for review by stakeholders -> Circulated draft note to IESG, IAB and RIR Liaison for comment and review assistance -> Proposed to put this to the ad-hoc IAB advisory committee on IPv6 addressing issues. IRTF Plenary Presentation Vern Paxson [Jun-04] [closed Status: Propose IRTF Plenary presentation -> Presentation on overview of ASRG by John Levine IAB RG Review Vern Paxson [Jun-04] [current Status: IAB review of IRTF RG status and activity in general to be scheduled for IETF 61 -> Vern to circulate material prior to IETF -> Network Management Review: November ICANN WHOIS TF Geoff Huston [Jun-04] [current Status: Check with John Klensin whether a note on CRISP activites would be helpful for WHOIS TF efforts -> Watching brief on further progress of TF reports within ICANN ENUM Instructions clarification Leslie Daigle [Jun-04] [current Status: Responses drafted and approved by IAB -> Pass liaison notes to ITU-T SG2 -> Pass proposed addendum of ENUM instructions to ITU-T TSB -> Following consultation, issue instructions to RIPE NCC Untangling Activeware and IPv6 Jonathan Rosenberg, Rob Austein, Bernard Aboba [Jun-04] [current Status: Lead IAB technical discussion on topic of the interaction of NATs, ALGs, Firewals, Application frameworks and IPv6 transition mechanisms. -> Consider ways of devolving this in a manner that allows productive study of the interactions and inter-dependencies at play here _________________________________________________________________ DOCUMENTS A survey of Authentication Mechanisms http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-auth-mech-03.txt Eric Rescorla [Apr-02] current Status: Revision -> (current) Revise as per comments from IETF call (next) RFC Submission (next) No forward progress Internationalized Resource Identifiers http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-char-rep-01.txt Leslie Daigle [Nov-02] held Status: Hold -> (current) Part of IDN workshop agenda IAB Research Agenda draft-iab-research-funding-03.txt Sally Floyd, Vern Paxson, Ran Atkinson, Mike St Johns, John Crowcroft [Jul-02] current Status: RFC Editor -> (current) Submission to RFC Editor as IAB Informational - 16 May Secure Autoconfiguration in IPv6 Bernard Aboba [Mar-03] current Status: IAB Review -> (current) Propose to rework current summary as a framework description. Note original problem statement of the range of choices of discovery mechanisms. (next) IAB Review: Rob, Bob, Patrik Protocol Models http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-model-01.txt Eric Rescorla [May-03] current Status: Revision -> (current) IAB Review: Sally (done) (next) Incorporate review comments (next) IETF Call for Input Internet Identities http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-identities-01.txt Patrik Faltstrom, Geoff Huston [Jul-03] current Status: Review -> (current) IAB Review: Leslie, Jonathan (done), Sally (done) DOS Attacks http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-dos-01.txt Mark Handley [Sep-03] current Status: Revision -> (current) IAB Review: Geoff (done), Eric (done) (next) Incorporate review comments Liaison Management http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-liaison-mgmt-02.txt Leslie Daigle [Nov-03] current Status: Review -> (current) Reading List for IETF 60 IAB Business meeting with draft-baker-liaison-statements (next) IETF Call for Input Applications issues with NATS Jonathan Rosenberg [Apr-04] current Status: Revision -> (current) Incorporate review comments (Sally) (next) Include consideration of weakness of ALG as a mechanism for NAT traversal, and consider merits and applicability of other approaches for the application to undertake NAT traversal without using ALG (considerations of explicit application interaction with middleware) Top Level Domain Issues Jonathan Rosenberg [May-04] current Status: drafting -> (current) IAB Review: Bernard, Geoff (next) Draft publication following IAB clearance Use of DNS RRs in Mail Applications Patrik Faltstrom, Rob Austein [Jun-04] current Status: drafting -> (current) draft-ymbk-dns-choices to be resubmitted as IAB draft _________________________________________________________________ These minutes were prepared by Geoff Huston; comments should be sent to iab-execd@iab.org. 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