Minutes of IAB Telechat 12 October 2004 _________________________________________________________________ 1. Roll call, Agenda Bash and Previous Minutes 1.1 Agenda 1. Roll call, Agenda Bash and Previous Minutes 2. Review of Action Items 3. Review of Documents 4. IAB Liaison Reports 5. Updates from IETF Liaisons 6. IETF61 meeting prep 7. IRTF Chair 8. 2005 Nomcom - IAB job description 9. Response to icann re TLDs 10. Upcoming US FTC Spam Summit 11. IAB Considerations in TEREDO documentation 12. ATIS liaison manager 13. IPv6 ULA proposal 14. Other Regular Business 1.2 Attendance Attendence: Leslie Daigle -- IAB Chair Harald Alvestrand -- IETF/IESG Chair Bernard Aboba Rob Austein Sally Floyd Mark Handley Jun-ichiro Itojun Hagino Bob Hinden Geoff Huston Eric Rescorla Pete Resnick Jonathan Rosenberg Lynn St. Amour -- Liaison from ISOC Vern Paxson -- IRTF Chair Apologies Patrik Faltstrom Joyce Reynolds -- Liaison from the RFC Editor Bert Wijnen -- Liaison from the IESG 1.3 Previous Minutes The minutes of the September 14 IAB meeting [1] were approved. 2. Review of Action Items The IAB expressed its gratitude to Pete Resnick for his efforts in convening the IAB Messaging Workshop. See Appendix A 3. Review of Documents See Appendix B 4. IAB Liaison Reports IESG Rob Austein, Bert Wijnen - It was reported that Steve Bellovin has resigned his AD position, and will step down following IETF61. RFC Editor Joyce Reynolds - Nothing to report. The IAB considered a report relating to the position of the RFC Editor in relation to work concerning Intellectual Property Rights (IPR) and the IETF publication process. While it is recognised that the existing procedures allow the IETF to direct the RFC Editor to publish a document within the scope of rights assigned to the IETF by the authors, it is unclear whether comparable rights are assigned to the RFC Editor in the case of publication of non-IETF documents. The IAB noted a potential question to the RFC Editor as to whether there is an appropriate IAB action here as part of the IAB's chartered responsibilities. IRTF Vern Paxson - A new mailing list, rgchairs@ietf.org, has been set up. It provides a public way to reach all of the IRTF RG chairs, as well as the IRTF chair and the IRSG at-large members. - Consideration is being given to closing down the Services Management RG. ISOC Lynn St Amour - Nothing to report. 5. Updates from IETF Liaisons IEEE 802 Bernard Aboba - A review of new work proposals indicates that there is some interest within 802.11 in working on a new network management framework. Liaison activity has focussed on the base requirements that are driving this activity. - A liaison report [2] has been passed to the IAB. OMA Dean WIllis - A collaboration tracking page [3] has been prepared by the OMA. - A liaison report [4] has been passed to the IAB. 6. IETF61 meeting preparation The IETF 61 plenary presentations will not have an IAB technical presentation, nor an IRTF RG presentation due to the scheduling of a single plenary in IETF 61. The IAB will review the status of the Network Management RG as part of its IETF61 meeting agenda. 7. IRTF Chair Consideration The Chair of the IRTF, Vern Paxson, reported that he would step down from this role in March 2005. The IAB noted that there was the opportunity to review the IRTF direction and the relationship between the IETF WGs and IRTF activity. A subcommittee of the IAB was tasked to prepare material on this topic for IAB review in November 2004. The selection of a new chair of the IRTF will be made in the light of the IAB's considerations of the role and direction of the IRTF. 8. 2005 Nomcom - IAB job description It was noted that under the current IETF Nominating Committee processes, the IAB has to provide a description of the role of IAB members. The IAB undertook to provide this information. 9. Response to ICANN re TLDs The IAB considered a response to the request from the ICANN CEO to the IAB [5] on the topic of new gTLDs. The IAB noted the activity of the DNSOP WG, and proposed that operational guidelines for TLD operators may be a topic of relevance to that WG. The IAB also noted the earlier work undertaken by the New TLD Evaluation Process Planning Task Force [6]. An IAB response will be passed back to ICANN on this topic. 10. Upcoming US FTC Spam Summit The IAB has been adviced of the forthcoming US FTC Spam Summit [7]. It was noted that there are concerns about IETF involvement in activities within one particular national regime. It was also noted that the IETF needs to communicate in relevant forums that closing down MARID is not a note of IETF resignation from the entire topic, and that the IETF intends to do more here. There is the intention to form other working groups and the IETF has definitely not abandoned this space. The IAB will work with the relevant Area Director to confirm whether a presentation from the perspective of the IETF can be submitted to this Summit. 11. IAB Considerations in TEREDO documentation One of the Internet ADs has requested a review of the IAB considerations in the Teredo specification with respect to the IAB's original UNSAF advice. The IAB considered the issues of various transition and exit scenarios, and noted the associated issues of use of this form of technology for purposes related to NAT traversal. IAB advice will be provided to the IESG. 12. ATIS liaison manager It was reported that the Association for Telecommunications Industry Standards (ATIS) are a group that is involved in IP network deployment and have an interest in working with the IETF in standards activity. The IAB noted that Alison Mankin is the delegated IETF person to liaising with ATIS in carrying this discussion with ATIS further as a part of an initial investigation. 13. IPv6 ULA proposal The IAB considered the IPv6 Unique Local Address draft status, and the role of scoped addresses in the IPv6 address architecture and the related issue of multiple-addressing with scope variations and the associated address selection process. This was seen to be related to the work being undertaken within the Multi6 WG, with address scope being the differentiator rather than end-to-end path viability. Some documentation activity on multi-address considerations is being considered by the IAB. The IAB also will review the centrally-assigned unique local address with respect to the IANA Considerations of this draft. 14. Other Regular Business No other items of business. The meeting closed at 2255UTC. URIs [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] Author's Address Geoff Huston IAB Executive Director Appendix A. Action Items IDN Geoff Huston Feb-03 Status: current Actions: - Coordinate preparatory work for a possible IAB 'virtual' workshop on IDN and related matters. - Compile a list of questions to be addressed in the context of a workshop - Leslie, Patrik and John Klensin to review IAB Messaging Workshop Pete Resnick Apr-04 Status: current Actions: - Archive of workshop material to be created and passed to IAB Executive Director - Workshop report to be prepared IPv6 Policies IPv6 Ad Hoc Advisory Committee May-04 Status: current Actions: - Passed a set of current IPv6 issues to the ad-hoc IAB advisory committee on IPv6 addressing issues. These are: status of ip6.int, use of the hd-ratio, IANA allocation unit, IANA IPv6 registry format and terminiology. ENUM IPR posting from ITU-T Leslie Daigle Sep-04 Status: current Actions: - Posting of ENUM IPR notice (referred to the IAB from the ITU-T) to the IETF's IPR page. Original request made on 14 July, followup on September 3 and October 12. - Further escalation with Secretariat required. Review of Teredo and unsaf considerations Jonathan Rosenberg Sep-04 Status: current Actions: - Coordinate IAB response to AD request for comments on Teredo with resepct to UNSAF Considerations DNS Ops TLD Operation Rob Austein, Itojun Hagino, Geoff Huston Sep-04 Status: current Actions: - DNSOPS WG activity on TLD operational considerations. - Offer of editorial assistance in any WG document to be made to the WG. - Geoff to propose a WG action to the WG mailing list on the topic of opreational considerations for DNS Top Level Domains IPv6 Multi-Address Considerations Bob Hinden, Rob Austein, Itojun Hagino, Geoff Huston Sep-04 Status: current Status: - Document considerations relating to address selection procedures and potential side effects in a multi- addressing environment with scoped and global addresses IPv6 Centrally Assigned ULAs Leslie Daigle Sep-04 Status: current Actions: - Review draft and IPv6 WG considerations regarding IANA Considerations for this proposal ATIS Liaison Alison Mankin Sep-04 Status: current Actions: - Discussion with ATIS regarding possible liaison activity ICANN note re TLDs Patrik Faltstrom Sep-04] Status: current Actions: - Draft response to ICANN IAB job description Geoff Huston Sep-04] Status: current Actions: - Draft response to 2004/5 Nomcom IRTF Review Leslie Daigle, Pete Resnick, Jonathan Rosenberg, Bob Hinden, Mark Handley, Vern Paxson, Sally Floyd Sep-04] Status: current Actions: - Prepare initial material relating to IRTF direction and role IAB Meetings at IETF61 Jonathan Rosenberg, Pete Resnick, All Sep-04] Status: current Actions: - IAB Sunday pm meeting: ALG issues (Jonathan), Messaging Workshop (Pete), IRTF (all) Appendix B. Review of Documents A survey of Authentication Mechanisms draft-iab-auth-mech Eric Rescorla [Apr-02] current Status: Revision (current) Revise as per comments from IETF call (next) RFC Submission Internationalized Resource Identifiers draft-iab-char-rep Leslie Daigle [Nov-02] held Status: Hold (current) Part of IDN workshop action Secure Autoconfiguration in IPv6 Bernard Aboba [Mar-03] current Status: Revision (current) Propose to rework current summary as a framework description. Note original problem statement of the range of choices of discovery mechanisms. (next) IETF Review Protocol Models draft-iab-model Eric Rescorla [May-03] current Status: Revision (current) Revision (next) Leslie and Eric to review IETF review comments in terms of the objectives of this documented approach to conceptual presentation of protocol operation Internet Identities draft-iab-identities Patrik Faltstrom, Geoff Huston [Jul-03] current Status: Revision (current) Incorporate review comments. Reflect considerations of inter-relations of identities at different layers and impacts of making changes based on a single layer's requirements. That revision will, in turn, reflect on the IP/locator split. DOS Attacks draft-iab-dos Mark Handley [Sep-03] current Status: Revision (current) Incorporate review comments Liaison Management draft-iab-liaison-mgmt Leslie Daigle [Nov-03] current Status: IETF Call for Input (current) IETF Call for Input (with draft-baker-liaison-state- ments) Untangling Activeware Jonathan Rosenberg [Apr-04] current Status: Revision (current) IAB consideration on the topic of the interaction of NATs, ALGs, Firewals, Application frameworks and IPv6 transition mechanisms (next) Consider ways of devolving this in a manner that allows productive study of the interactions and inter-dependencies at play here (next) Draft an abstract and outlines for further IAB review Top Level Domain Issues Jonathan Rosenberg [May-04] current Status: Drafting (current) IAB Review: Bernard, Geoff (next) Draft publication following IAB clearance Use of DNS RRs in Mail Applications draft-iab-dns-choices Patrik Faltstrom, Rob Austein [Jun-04] current Status: Review (current) IETF review Architectural Implications of Link Layer Indications Bernard Aboba [Jun-04] current Status: Drafting (current) ready for draft publication OMA Liaison Agreement http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-oma-liaison-00.txt Status: RFC Editor (current) Submitted to RFC Editor 8-Sep _________________________________________________________________ These minutes were prepared by the IAB Executive Director, Geoff Huston. 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