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Minutes
IAB Meeting at IETF 61

7 - 12 November 2004

1. Roll call, Agenda Bash and Previous Minutes

1.1 Agenda

  1. Roll call, Agenda Bash and Previous Minutes
  2. Review of Action Items
  3. Review of Documents
  4. IAB Liaison Reports
  5. Updates from IETF Liaisons
  6. IETF Administrative Restructuring
  7. IAB Messaging Workshop Outcomes
  8. IRTF Review
  9. IPv6 Global Policy Setting
  10. IIETF Plenary
  11. Network Management Research Group Review

1.2 Attendance

Leslie Daigle -- IAB Chair
Harald Alvestrand -- IETF/IESG Chair
Bernard Aboba
Rob Austein
Patrik Fältström
Sally Floyd
Mark Handley
Jun-ichiro Itojun Hagino
Bob Hinden
Geoff Huston
Eric Rescorla
Pete Resnick
Jonathan Rosenberg
Bert Wijnen -- Liaison from the IESG
Joyce Reynolds -- Liaison from the RFC Editor
Lynn St. Amour -- Liaison from ISOC

Apologies

Vern Paxson -- IRTF Chair

1.3 Previous Minutes

The minutes of the October 12 IAB meeting were approved.

2. Review of Action Items

(See Appendix A)

3. Review of Documents

(See Appendix B)

4. IAB Liaison Reports

IESG
Rob Austein, Bert Wijnen

RFC Editor
Joyce Reynolds

IRTF
Vern Paxson

ISOC
Lynn St Amour

5. Updates from IETF Liaisons

GGF
Brian Carpenter

IEEE 802
Bernard Aboba

6. IETF Administrative Restructuring

The IAB met in joint session with the IESG to consider the current status of the IETF Administrative Restructuring activity. The current status of this activity is that the IAB and IESG have published a joint recommendation to pursue a "Scenario O" based approach for IETF administrative restructuring ( draft-iab-iesg-adminrest-rec). The current working document for the support activity is draft-wasserman-iasa-bcp. Further material is at http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf/adminrest/

The IAB and IESG believes that there is community consensus for moving the administrative activity forward as an ISOC activity, as described in the IASA document, and that the next steps are to proceed with transition to IASA model.

The next steps are for the IETF Chair to select documents editors for the IASA document, with the objective of publishing the next revision of this document as draft-ietf-iasa-bcp. Community and legal and organization review will be undertaken, with the drafting work expected to be complete by the start of December, at which time the document will be IETF Last Called. Formal IESG consideration of the document is anticipated or early January.

The IASA Transition Team activity will commence in late November, and the current process includes ISOC, the IAB and IESG each selecting one transition team member. This transition team is to refine the structure of the IASA and define priorities for the preparation of out-sourcing arrangements, as well as commencing the process of selection of the IETF Administrative Director (IAD). A sub-committee of Allison Mankin, Geoff Huston, Bob Hinden and Eric Rescorla was tasked to coordinate the candidate nominations for this team.

Further steps are to seat the initial oversight committee in early 2005, hire the director position and finalize contracts by mid-2005.

7. IAB Messaging Workshop Outcomes

The IAB messaging workshop was reported as an activity with mixed outcomes. The IAB discussed the level of expectation setting for such workshops, and recognized the increasing level of expectation that such workshops were anticipated to make significant steps in terms of the IETF's approach to the work domain under study.

Future workshops would need to carefully consider their objectives in the light of the limitations of the workshop format. The IAB noted that one approach was to concentrate less in generation of position papers in advance of the workshop and concentrate preparation efforts more in the are of session leadership and presentations that generated thoughtful discussion and productive interaction.

8. IRTF Review

The IAB further considered the role and purpose of the IRTF as part of its review. The IAB discussed a formulation of the goals of the IRTF as follows:

Goals for IRTF research

Goals for IRTF with respect to IETF work

Goals for IRTF as a body of work efforts

The IAB decided to further expand these goals into an IAB report on the role of the IRTF within the overall structure of the IETF, and subsequently circulate this document for wider community review.

9. IPv6 Global Policy Setting

The IAB reviewed the situation with respect to policy setting in the area of administration of the IPv6 address distribution function.

The IAB considered the preparation of a statement that described the IAB's perspective on the overall process of determination of an address architecture and the subsequent determination of policies for the address distribution function. In addition, the statement should note that the IAB looks forward to continuing the dialogue with the Regional Internet Registries in the ongoing refinement of best technical practices in this activity and their implications for allocation policies.

10. IETF Plenary

Presentations in the IETF61 plenary are archived by the IAB at http://www.iab.org/documents/docs/iab-plenaries/2004-11-washington/

11. Network Management Research Group Review

The IAB, assisted by Jürgen Schönwalder, chair of the NMRG, reviewed the status of the NMRG. Jüergen's presentation to the IAB is at: http://www.iab.org/documents/docs/iab-plenaries/2004-11-washington/nmrg-review.pdf

The NMRG offers research participants extended time to present and discuss their thinking and work. This has resulted in academic sector participation in the RG. The measurements of the RG's impact was discussed, and while the RG monthly reports did create a discipline of progress reporting, but it did not embrace the common metrics of academic and research performance related to published papers and conference participation.

Current research topics in this domain include that of the continued evolution of SNMP, the potential use of web services as the means of interaction between the management system and the network element. The IAB also contrasted the approach of element management to system or network service outcome management as an overall approach to the topic of network management.

Appendix A

IAB Actions

Appendix B

IAB Documents

These minutes were prepared by the IAB Executive Director, Geoff Huston. Any comments should be sent to iab-execd@iab.org. An online copy of these and other minutes is available at: http://www.iab.org/documents/iabmins/

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