Minutes
IAB Teleconference
November 1, 2006
1.1 Agenda
- Rollcall, Agenda Bash, Minutes
- RFC Editor question about submissions coming out of working groups
- Experimental Congestion Control?
- Liaison Discussion/Appointments
- IETF Preparation
- Review of Specific Actions
- Review of Specific Documents
- AOB
- JFC Morfin Appeal
1.2 Attendance
PRESENT
Bernard Aboba
Loa Andersson
Leslie Daigle -- IAB Chair
Elwyn Davies
Olaf Kolkman
Kurtis Lindqvist
David Meyer
David Oran
Eric Rescorla
Dave Thaler
Lixia Zhang
Dan Romascanu -- Liaison from the IESG
Sandy Ginoza -- Liaison from the RFC Editor
Aaron Falk -- IRTF Chair
Brian Carpenter -- IETF Chair
Phil Roberts -- IAB Executive Director
ABSENT
Kevin Fall
Lynn St. Amour -- Liaison from ISOC
Approval of Minutes
Approved minutes of October 25 business meeting.
The RFC Editor requested advice from the IAB about how to handle individual submissions from
that came out of working groups but that working groups chose not to publish as products of the
working groups. Brian called attention to
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iesg-sponsoring-guidelines-00.txt
but according to Bob Braden it doesn't cover this case. The IAB discussed several issues with
these sorts of documents including 1) how to accurately record information about the status of
the documents 2) what standard of technical review these receive or not and 3) how to go about
getting the technical review. Regarding 1) if the RFC editor is going to publish such a document
it is important to record whether there were technical reasons it wasn't chosen and what those are;
and it is important also to make clear the actual status of the document with respect to the IETF
process. The specific documents in question are protocol proposals to CAPWAP that were not chosen.
Bob Braden agreed to propose some text to the WG chairs of CAPWAP about how to handle the specific
documents. The larger discussion will be held on the independent mailing list. Leslie agreed to
forward some text she put together some time ago.
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-floyd-cc-alt-00.txt
Lars requested guidance from the IAB on the issue of when it is appropriate to enable experimental
congestion control mechanisms in the Internet. Lars Eggert proposes to have a meeting at IETF 67
to discuss how to handle this. The IAB agreed to let Lars know that a few IAB members will be at
the meeting in IETF 67 and to decide whether there needs to be a broader IAB action after assessing
the discussion at the meeting.
Mark Townsley helped create a document describing a liaison relationship with cable
labs. Dave Oran agreed to review the document and carry the action for the IAB on
whether to set up such a liaison.
The IAB discussed preparations for the technical plenary and making sure the various
proposed BOFs have IAB coverage.
- Use of draft-tracker for IAB documents
The IAB discussed whether depending more on the draft tracker for administration
of its documents is a worthwhile endeavor. The topic needs some research. Phil,
Dan, and Leslie agreed to meet to discuss during IETF-67.
- ICANN nomcom appointment
The IAB needs to appoint a member of the ICANN nomcom. This is an important
job, especially this year, when the ICANN NomCom has to fill slots being left
by ICANN Board Chair and very IETF-aware board member, Vint Cerf.. The IAB
agreed to discuss some possible candidates during IETF-67.
(See Appendix A)
- IAB document now for DNS wildcards?
The IAB discussed whether there have been enough occasions now to warrant the publication
of an IAB document on this topic. Recently there was some discussion on the IETF list
about recursive servers and a wireless ISP that changes answers on the fly. We might
also want to capture this together with the sitefinder doc in an RFC. Olaf will report after IETF.
- new document on TCP behavior with anycast/mobility?
Kurtis has the token to produce a proposal on this
- Fred Baker's multihoming scalability doc?
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-baker-v6ops-l3-multihoming-analysis-00.txt
Fred requested feedback from the IAB on this document. Kurtis and Dave Meyer will attend
the v6 ops meeting on Monday and report on the discussion there.
- Olaf's document on appeal support
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kolkman-appeal-support-00.txt
The IAB discussed this document and agreed it is better for it not to be an IAB document
but if the document gains traction within the community the IAB will consider whether it
is important for it to provide a formal review.
(See Appendix B)
None.
The IAB entered executive session to discuss the JFC Morfin appeal.
IAOC Appointment
Assigned to: Phil Roberts
Initiated: February 2006
Goal: Handle the IAB's appointment to the IAOC, per RFC 4333.
Old Status: Phil agreed to produce proposed timelines of this and the ISOC BoT appointments.
New Status: IAOC appointment timeline agreed to. Next step, send out announcement of the selection process.
ISOC BoT Appointment
Assigned to: Phil Roberts
Initiated: September 2006
Goal:Handle the IAB's appointment to the ISOC Board of Trustees
Status:Proposed timeline sent to ML with comments requested.
Workshop on Bad Traffic
Assigned to: Leslie Daigle, etc
Initiated: October 2005
Goal: Hold an IAB workshop on Unwanted Traffic.
Old Status: Minutes circulated. Next step: Loa & Lixia to draft report.
New Status: draft-00 of workshop report published
Mobility Document or other
Assigned to: Lixia Zhang
Initiated: May 2006
Goal: Review the status of mobility issues and propose an IAB-sized piece to tackle (if any).
IAB RAW Workshop
Assigned to: DMM
Initiated: March 2006
Goal: To have a workshop to address routing issues in the Internet
Old Status: DMM and Lixia will prepare a proposal on goals, topics, and agenda by 9/13/2006.
New Status: Workshop held, draft report in progress
RAW Workshop Report
Assigned to: DMM
Initiated: Sep 2006
Goal: To produce a report on the workshop in a timely manner
Status: Initiated
RAW Workshop Wiki
Assigned to: Phil
Initiated: September 2006
Goal: To have a wiki that workshop participants can use in prepartiong for the upcoming workshop.
Old Status:Henrik set up a private wiki on tools, Phil will talk to Henrik about its use next week
New Status:Workshop wiki in use by workshop participants
Data Tracker for IAB docs
Assigned to: Phil
Initiated: October 2006
Goal: Produce a plan in November; complete execution in December
Design Choices When Expanding DNS
Link: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-dns-choices-03.txt
Assigned to: Olaf Kolkman, Patrik Faltstrom
Initiated: June 2004
Old status: Olaf and PAF will make a final review.
A survey of Authentication Mechanisms
Link:http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-auth-mech-05.txt
Assigned to: Eric Rescorla
Initiated: April 2002
Old Status: Comments from Sam & others received.
Untangling Activeware
Link:http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-nat-traversal-considerations-00.txt(expired)
Assigned to: Lixia Zhang and Dave Oran
Initiated: April 2004
Old status: Dave Oran and Lixia agreed to renew this effort.
Architectural Implications of Link Layer Indications
Link:http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-link-indications-05.txt
Assigned to: Bernard Aboba
Initiated: June 2004
Old status: -05 submitted with comments incorporated.
GSE History
Assigned to: Lixia Zhang
Initiated: December 2005
Old status: Article for IETF Journal produced, Lixia will convert that into an I-D form.
Link Layers Supporting Multiple Encapsulations
Link:http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-link-encaps-02.txt
Assigned to: Bernard Aboba
Initiated: April 2006
Old Status: Version -02 published. Feedback received from IEEE 802.1 & 802.16 (all positive so far).
The RFC Series and the RFC Editor
Link:http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-rfc-editor-01.txt
Assigned to: Leslie Daigle
Initiated: April 2006
Old status: Version -01 published.
New status: Last call will be sent.
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