Minutes
IAB Teleconference

2007-06-20

1. Roll-call, agenda-bash, approval of minutes, administrivia

1.1 Agenda

1.2 Attendance

PRESENT

  Joe Abley (IAB Executive Director)
  Loa Andersson
  Leslie Daigle
  Kevin Fall
  Sandy Ginoza (RFC Editor Liaison)
  Russ Housley (IETF Chair)
  Olaf Kolkman (IAB Chair)
  Kurtis Lindqvist
  Barry Leiba
  Eric Rescorla
  Dave Thaler
  Mark Townsley (IESG Liaison)
  Lynn St Amour (ISOC Liaison)
  Lixia Zhang

APOLOGIES

  Danny McPherson
  Aaron Falk (IRTF Liaison)
  Dave Oran

1.3. Approval of Minutes

Minutes of the May 16 and June 6 conference calls were approved.


2. IAB Retreat Reflections

There was some brief discussion regarding archival of notes from
the retreat.


3. Liaison Issues

3.1. ITU-T NGN Liaison

The ongoing need for an ITU-T NGN liaison, replacing Scott Brim,
was discussed. There was some concern voiced over the difficulty
in finding candidates who are sufficiently involved in the ITU-T
but who are also experienced IETF contributors. Eric Rescorla
undertook to consult within the IETF community in order to gauge
others' opinions about this liaison role, and also to find potential
candidates.

3.2. UTC Liaison

It was noted that the IAB had received e-mail suggesting that there
was a communication problem between the Unicode Type Consortium
and the IETF. In particular there is concern about IDNbis work
taking place on a non-IETF mailing list, outside the IETF process.
Leslie and Elwyn are working on possible strategies to resolve
the observed issues.

3.3. Liaison to DSL Forum

Mark Townsley presented an overview of the DSL Forum, and there was
discussion about the overlap between the DSL Forum's work and the
IETF, and the potential value to both the DSL Forum and the IETF
of appointing a formal liaison.  Comparisons were drawn to Cablelabs.
There was consensus that the establishment of a formal liaison had
potential benefits for the IETF. Mark undertook to raise the issue
with the DSL Forum in order to gauge their feelings.

3.4. T-MPLS

Loa Andersson reported that several IETF WG chairs are very concerned
about further development of IETF protocols by the ITU, in particular
that the diverged Transport MPLS protocol set poses a threat to
interoperability with IETF protocols due to the re-use of IETF-assigned
code points.

It was agreed that this issue should be raised in the informal
meeting between ITU-T and IETF leadership in Chicago, and that
further discussion of possible approaches between the IAB and IESG
would be worthwhile.

3.5. Cablelabs Liaison

Dave Oran was not present on the call to give an update on candidates
for this role.

3.6. WiMax

It was noted that the WiMax Forum had expressed interest in
establishing a formal liaison with the IETF. Dave Thaler undertook
to consult with WiMax Forum people who are already active in the
IETF as individuals in order to gain greater insight of the potential
benefits to both organisations.


4. Instructions to the NomCom Liaison

It was noted that the IESG has established a set of principles with
which to provide guidance to their NomCom Liaison. The question of
what guidance the IAB should provide to its NomCom Liaison postponed
until the IESG's guidance could be reviewed.


5. IESG Report

6. IRTF Report

7. RFC Editor Report

8. ISOC Report

9. Agenda for Chicago IETF

The schedule for IAB meetings in Chicago was confirmed. It was noted
that there is currently nothing scheduled for the technical plenary
apart from the usual IAB update. Several possible topics were
discussed, but none were chosen.