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Minutes
IAB Meeting — Teleconference

10 December 2002, 3:00pm – 5:00pm EST


ATTENDING

    Leslie Daigle — IAB Chair
    Harald Alvestrand — IETF/IESG Chair
    Ran Atkinson
    Rob Austein
    Fred Baker
    Sally Floyd
    Ted Hardie
    Geoff Huston
    Charlie Kaufman
    Jim Kempf
    Erik Nordmark — Liaison from the IESG
    Vern Paxson — IRTF Chair
    Eric Rescorla

    Lynn St.Amour — Liaison from ISOC

APOLOGIES

    Joyce K. Reynolds — Liaison from the RFC Editor
    Mike St. Johns

NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING

    Tuesday, 14 January, 2003.

AGENDA

  1. Rollcall, Agenda Bash and Previous Minutes
  2. Review of Action Items
  3. Review of Documents
  4. Liaison Reports and Organization Updates
  5. MoU request – Paul Vixie
  6. Request to move 6Bone addresses into ip6.arpa
  7. RIR Liaison
  8. ICANN TLG and Board Liaison
  9. Any Other Business


NOTES

    0. Rollcall, Agenda Bash and Previous Minutes

    1. Review of Action Items

    2. Review of Documents

    3. Liaison Reports

      IESG
      It was reported that the IESG is considering the future of the sub-ip interim area. The IESG has also been working on various measures directed towards further openness of IESG activities.

      The IAB noted that there is an IESG proposed draft statement on IDN that may be of interest to the IAB. The IAB discussed mechanisms of referral of documents to the IAB and the tracking of IAB member comments on documents. The IAB expressed an interest in using the document tracker system and in the planned functionality concerning balloting and comments to support the IAB’s activities.

      RFC Editor
      No report

      IRTF
      No items to report

      ISOC
      It was reported that ISOC will be publishing a statement on the topic of the recently rescinded Panama actions concerning the legislation regarding blocking of UDP ports used by VOIP applications. The ISOC Public Policy Committee is drafting this statement.

      Notes of ISOC support regarding cybersecurity initiatives are to be passed to US and European agencies, noting the importance of this area of activity and ISOC’s willingness to participate in this effort.

      It was noted that ISOC was requested to provide a liaison to the IETF Nominating Committee, but that the request was made at a stage that was too late to be helpful to the Nominating Committee’s efforts. It is anticipated that an ISOC liaison would be requested in future years.

      The PIR registry contract has been signed with ICANN earlier in December. The PIR will be the registrar of record as of 1 January 2003.

      ITU-T
      No items to report

      W3C
      No items to report

      PSO-PC and ICANN

      It was reported that ICANN had recently published a note indicated that prompt action was required for the Technical Liaison Group to propose a member for the ICANN Nominations Committee. The IAB determined that it would await the outcomes of the forthcoming ICANN Board meeting item concerning the adoption of the Evolution and Reform Transition instruments. It was anticipated that the IAB would then forward a note to ICANN and the other PSO MoU signatories indicating that the IAB was withdrawing from this MoU and nominating IAB liaisons to the Technical Liaison Group.

      RSSAC
      It was reported that the RSSAC has been considering the CRADA report.

      IETF Nominations Committee

      It was reported that the Nomcom is awaiting the resolution of the consideration of the sub-ip area to determine if there is a requirement for nominations for Area Directors for this Area.

    4. MoU request – Paul Vixie

      The IAB considered a request from Paul Vixie (operator of the F root server) to sign an MoU concerning the operation of the root servers. The IAB noted that no other root server operators have asked the IAB to be involved, and that this does not appear to be a request on behalf of the root servers in general, and at least some of the other root server operators have signed MOUs with ICANN. The IAB decided that it would not interpose itself in this activity, through signing such a document, on behalf of a single root server operator. It was also determined that the IAB would be willing to revisit this matter if the root server operators came to the IAB as a group.

    5. Request to move 6Bone addresses into ip6.arpa

      The IAB agreed to the request from the RIRs to allow the 6Bone addresses as a permitted exception to the provisions of RFC 3152.

    6. RIR Liaison

      The IAB discussed a proposal to offer a liaison to the Regional Internet Registries (RIRs), noting that there was a need for better contact with the RIRs. The IAB was in favour of a liaison group that included a group of nominated individuals from the IETF and the RIRs using a mail forum and ad hoc meetings as required. It was noted that this would be an improvement on the current situation and further experience with this structure may suggest further measures in the future.

      The IAB discussed the proposed ARIN 2002-2 policy concerning allocation of number resources to support certain experiments to be conducted on the public Internet. The IAB noted that some form of technical coordination was desireable and that this could involve the proposed RIR liaison. Discussion is hosted on the ARIN public policy forum.

    7. ICANN TLG and Board Liaison

      The IAB decided to nominate Geoff Huston and Mike St Johns as the initial nominations to the proposed ICANN Technical Liaison Group (TLG).

      The IAB observed that there is some residual diversity of perspective on the responsibility for management of protocol parameter registration that may require some clarification by the IAB.

      The IAB noted that the nomination of a liaison to the Board of ICANN will be required shortly, and that this matter should be concluded at the next IAB meeting.

    8. Any Other Business

      8.1 Proposal for IAB consideration of Notification Mechanisms

      The IAB considered a request from Ned Freed concerning IAB architectural consideration of Notification Mechanisms. The IAB considered that this should be undertaken as a focussed activity involving a number of interested individuals with expertise in this area.

      8.2 Review of WG Charters

      The IAB approved a proposal to include prospective WG chairs in the joint IAB and IESG discussion of the charter of proposed Working Groups.

      8.3 Problem Statement Discussion

      Harald Alvestrand reported on the current status of the problem-statement forum. There is a current call for chair for a working group to continue this activity within a WG structure.


Actions and Documents


    Actions

    • ICANN Evolution and Reform Followup
        Leslie Daigle
        [Jul-02]
        pending
        Status: Await ICANN adoption of new Bylaws
        •  Appoint liaisons
    • IAB Research Agenda
        Sally Floyd, Vern Paxson, Ran Atkinson, Mike St Johns, John Crowcroft
        [Jul-02]
        current
        Status: Document the need for funding for further research for the Internet. This includes documenting important topics for research
        •  Discussion underway on topic
        •  Current state of affairs on isoc-coordinated funding has been circulated
    • IAB IPV6 Deployment Security Workshop
        Eric Rescorla, Rob Austein, James Kempf
        [Jul-02]
        current
        Status: Workshop problem statement that includes emphasis on security consideration of various transition solutions (secure 6-to-4 relay, etc). Proposal drafted, Venue proposed in Japan, early 2003
        •  Rob Austein – prepare a workshop brief
        •  James – hosting logistics
        •  Ran – coordinate invitations with WG chairs
        •  James, Geoff – followup on sponsorship possibilities
        •  Form Subcommittee: Geoff, James, Rob, WG Chairs
    • IAB RFC Publication Process
        Geoff Huston
        [Nov-02]
        current
        Status: Draft circulated (2002-11-15-IAB-RFC-Process-draft.txt)
        •  IAB Reading List
    • Externally submitted drafts
        Leslie Daigle
        [Nov-02]
        current
        Status: Note to the IESG the IAB reservations in the use of draft-org- as a means of document submission into the IETF process for external bodies
    • IAB Use of Document Tracker System
        Leslie Daigle, Erik Rescorla
        [Dec-02]
        new
        Status: Leslie- Note to IETF Chair expressing IAB interest in the IESG Document Tracker system and its further development
        •  Eric – draft a note as to IAB requirements
    • PSO MoU
        Geoff Huston
        [Dec-02]
        new
        Status: draft a note to Stuart Lynn, cc PSO-PC, indicating the IAB notice to withdraw from the PSO M0U
    • Root Server MoU Request
        Leslie Daigle
        [Dec-02]
        new
        Status: Respond to Paul Vixie, reporting on IAB consideration
    • 6Bone Addresses in ip6.arpa
        Leslie Daigle
        [Dec-02]
        new
        Status: respond to the RIR request with IAB approval
    • RIR Liaison
        Leslie Daigle
        [Dec-02]
        new
        Status: draft a liaison proposal for IAB consideration
    • ARIN Policy 2002-2
        Geoff Huston
        [Dec-02]
        new
        Status: Post individual proposal to ARIN public policy forum
    • ICANN TLG
        Leslie Daigle
        [Dec-02]
        new
        Status: send TLG nominations to ICANN following ICANN adoption of TLG
    • ICANN Board Liaison
        All
        [Dec-02]
        new
        Status: Nominations of liaison to IAB Chair
    • Notification Mechanisms
        Leslie Daigle, Ted Hardie, James Kempf
        [Dec-02]
        new
        Status: Leslie – to resapond to Ned Freed
        •  Ted, James – to form activity group to investigate architectural issues relating to notification mechanisms
    • WG Charter Review
        Harald Alvestrand
        [Dec-02]
        new
        Status: Report IAB approval to IESG

    Closed Actions

    • iab.org
        Leslie Daigle, Geoff Huston
        [Apr-02]
        closed
        Status: closed 25/11/02
        •  iab.org redelegated and web server re-homed
    • Internationalized Resource Identifiers
        Ted Hardie, Leslie Daigle
        [Nov-02]
        closed
        Status: closed 3/12/2002
        •  Communicate concerns with IRI draft to W3C-IETF joint list (Ted to prepare, Ned to review, Leslie to pass to joint list)
    • ITU-T ENUM Draft Press Release
        Leslie Daigle
        [Nov-02]
        closed
        Status: closed 3/12/2002
        •  Respond with desire to remove reference to IETF and Patrik as WG chair
    • IAB comment on ISOC statement regartding Panama and VOIP blocking
        Leslie Daigle
        [Nov-02]
        closed
        Status: closed 3/12/2002
        •  Overtaken by further events
    • RSSAC Liaison Status
        Leslie Daigle
        [Nov-02]
        closed
        Status: closed 3/12/2002
        •  Confirm status of IAB nominated liaison on the RSSAC mail lists


    Documents

    • Security considerations, including common security attacks
      draft-iab-sec-cons-01.txt
        Eric Rescorla
        [May-01]
        current
        Status: Editing
        1.  (current) Comments from IESG members being incorporated
        2.  (next) Resubmission to IESG for protocol action and entry to RFC Editor Queue

    • Security Mechanisms for the Internet
      draft-iab-secmech-01.txt
        Charlie Kaufman, Steve Bellovin
        [May-01]
        current
        Status: Editing
        1.  (current) Charlie to incorporate IAB comment
        2.  (next) IETF Call for Input

    • A survey of Authentication Mechanisms
      draft-rescorla-auth-mech-00.txt
        Eric Rescorla
        [Apr-02]
        current
        Status: Editing
        1.  (current) Incorporate comments
        2.  (next) IETF Call for Input

    • Referential Integrity
        Fred Baker, Patrik Faltstrom
        [Jul-02]
        current
        Status: Drafting
        1.  (current) draft a document that describes the issues associated with referential integrity

    • Internet Architecture and End-to-End
      draft-kempf-e2e-futures-00-1.txt

        James Kempf, Rob Austein
        [Jul-02]
        current
        Status: IAB Review
        1.  (current) IAB Reading
        2.  (next) publish as draft-iab-*-00, mid-December

    • Network Management Report
      draft-iab-nm-workshop-01.txt
        Ran Atkinson, Juergen Shoenwalder
        [Oct-02]
        current
        Status: Review Comments Incorporated
        1.  (current) Ran to check document status
        2.  (next) Publication as Informational RFC early 03

    • Internationalized Resource Identifiers
        Ted Hardie, Patrik Faltstrom, Ran Atkinson
        [Nov-02]
        current
        Status: Drafting
        1.  (current) Document the issues relating to the proposed use of IRIs as protocol elements – checking with IRI authors

    • Service Identification in packets
      draft-iab-service-id-considerations

        Mike St Johns, Geoff Huston
        [Nov-02]
        current
        Status: IAB Review
        1.  (current) IAB Reading
        2.  (next) publish as draft-iab-*-00, mid-December

    • Transport Controls for VOIP
        Geoff Huston, James Kempf
        [Nov-02]
        current
        Status: Drafting
        1.  (current) Document the use of transport control and congestion detection and avoicance for VOIP applications

    • IANA Definition
      draft-iab-iana-00.txt

        Geoff Huston
        [Nov-02]
        current
        Status: IAB Review
        1.  (current) IAB Reading
        2.  (next) publish as draft-iab-*-00, mid-December
        3.  (next) drafted and passed to the IAB
        4.  (next) wed cob timeout

    • ISOC Trustee Appointment Process
        Leslie Daigle
        [Nov-02]
        current
        Status: publish draft
        1.  (current) Include section to address the question of the difference between this process and the Nomcom process.

These minutes were prepared by Geoff Huston; comments should be sent to iab-execd@iab.org. An online copy of these and other minutes is available at: http://www.iab.org/documents/IABmins/

The IAB Web page is at http://www.iab.org