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IAB Minutes 2003-01-14

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Minutes
IAB Meeting — Teleconference

14 January 2003, 3:00pm – 5:00pm EST


ATTENDING

    Leslie Daigle — IAB Chair
    Harald Alvestrand –IETF/IESG Chair
    Joyce Reynolds — Liaison from the RFC Editor
    Mike St. Johns
    Charlie Kaufmann
    Geoff Huston
    Rob Austein
    Ted Hardie
    Sally Floyd
    James Kempf
    Lynn St. Amour — Liaison from ISOC
    Eric Rescorla

REGRETS

    Vern Paxson — IRTF Chair
    Eric Nordmark — Liaison from the IESG
    Ran Atkinson
    Fred Baker

NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING

    Tuesday, 10 February, 2003.

AGENDA

    AGENDA

  1. Rollcall, Agenda Bash and Previous Minutes
  2. Review of Action Items
  3. Review of Documents
  4. Liaison Reports and Organization Updates
      IESG
      RFC Editor
      IRTF
      ISOC
      ITU-T
      W3C
      ICANN
      • should our Board liaison be (ex officio) IAB?
      • do we make a statement re. the proposed ENUM “workshop”?

      RSSAC
      IETF Nominations Committee
      ISO

      • Category A/Category C liaison question

  5. Interfacing with ISOC, providing technical support to their work.
    • Identifying research topics for their funding efforts
    • FCC Seeks Comments on Applying E911 to VoIP

  6. IAB Concerns about DNS: IAB response to ICANN’s request for input on VGRS com/net proposal
  7. All other business for full IAB
  8. Consideration of Robert Elz’ appeal against IESG decision to approve draft-ietf-ipngwg-addr-arch-v3-11.txt

NOTES

    0. Rollcall, Agenda Bash and Previous Minutes

      The agenda was amended to include identifying an IAB member to sit in on the IESG conference call during Rob Austein’s vacation.

      The minutes of the December 10, 2002 meeting were approved as posted to the mailing list.

    1. Review of Action Items

    2. Review of Documents

    3. Liaison Reports

      IESG

      The IAB was asked to read and comment on the draft charter for the IESG and on the draft IESG procedures document.

      RFC Editor

      Joyce noted that an issue with RSVP number assignment had been raised with the IESG.

      IRTF

      No Report.

      ISOC

      Lynn reported that the Public Interest Registry launched in January. She also noted that ISOC is now at break even in its finances; a full report will be made available when ISOC closes its books for 2002.

      ITU-T

      ITU liaison statements on geographic distribution enum.arpa have been received. IETF/ITU subgroup is working on a response.

      W3C

      No Report.

      ICANN

      The IAB considered whether the BoT member appointed by the IETF should be a member of the IAB, either ex officio or by limiting the selection to those serving on the IAB. The IAB decided that this role need not be ex officio part of the IAB nor should the selection be limited to members of the IAB. Further discussion of the criteria will be made public during the call for nominations. This situation will be reviewed after one year.

      The IAB also noted that ICANN is proposing an ENUM workshop. Some concerns were expressed with the interaction of this process with those already in place in the IETF and in the process documents agreed to be the IAB and ITU. Leslie will draft a statement expressing the sense of the meeting for the review of the IAB and eventual transmission to ICANN.

      RSSAC

      RSSAC has scheduled a meeting for the Sunday prior to the next IETF. In order to ensure that the IAB liaison can attend, the IAB will schedule its meeting for Tuesday evening.

      IETF Nominations Committee

      The NomCom chair currently plans to release all request for approval together, at or near the end of January.

      ISO

      The IAB reaffirmed that it would accept the category A liaison originally proposed by ISO and that a category C liaison would not match the IAB’s sense of the needs of the ISO/IETF relationship.

    4.Interfacing with ISOC

      1. Research topics and funding efforts by ISOC.

        This agenda item was discussed during the IAB Action agenda topic; see below.

      2. Comments by ISOC on the FCC request for input on the application of E911 to VoIP.

        The FCC has asked for _ex parte_ comments on the application. The IAB agreed that any statement should come from ISOC, not the IAB, but that IAB members might provide technical input if the area fell within their technical expertise. Lynn will provide information on when the comments are due.

    5.IAB Concerns about DNS: IAB response to ICANN’s request for input on the system deployed by VeriSign for .com and .net.

      The IAB considered draft text for a response to ICANN and agreed review by the IESG would be valuable before it was sent to ICANN. The IAB also agreed that a second, more general document on the the topic of IDN deployment strategies would be useful. The structure of this document depends to some extent on whether the RFCs describing IDNA are available. These are now awaiting IANA action. Harald will talk to the relevant ADs about whether this action and these documents should be fast-tracked in the RFC publication process.

    6.Sally Floyd will attend the IESG meeting during Rob Austein’s vacation.

    7.Appeal

      After the IETF Chair and Liaisons left the meeting, the topic of the appeal against the decision to approve draft-ietf-ipngwg-addr-arch-v3-11.txt was discussed. A decision was not reached during this discussion, and further discussion was moved to the appeal-specific mailing list. One or more additional teleconference may also be scheduled to accommodate this discussion.


Actions and Documents


    Actions

    • IAB use of document tracker
        Eric Rescorla
        [Jan-03]
        new
        Status:Requirements posted
        •  Eric has posted requirements for an IAB document tracker. They are not similar to the IESG’s current document tracker. In general, the IAB’s document management needs are closer to those of a working group editing function.
        •  A balloting system maybe required in addition or instead, in order to facilitate the determination of consensus among the IAB members. Eric will produce a proposal for such a system.
    • RIR Liaison
        Leslie Daigle, Harald Alvestrand
        [Jan 03]
        new
        Status: pending discussion
        •   Leslie and Harald will meet with the RIR CEOs at the next RIPE meeting. This will provide a high-level interaction among the parties, but further discussion with the RIRs on how to achieve technical coordination is needed. In particular, more insight into how policy making among RIR constituents can incorporate technical coordination is needed.
    • IAB Network Management Workshop
        Ran Atkinson, Juergen Shoenwalder
        [Feb-02]
        current
        Status: Internet draft not yet in final state.

    • RFC Submission review
        Geoff Huston
        [May-02]
        current
        Status:
        •   Discussion deferred.
    • ICANN Evolution and Reform Followup
        Geoff Huston
        [Jul-02]
        closed
        Status: PSO closed; TLG advisors named.

    • ICANN Board Liaison
        Leslie Daigle
        [Nov-02]
        current
        Status: Nominations being received.

    • IAB Research Agenda
        Sally Floyd, Vern Paxson, Ran Atkinson, Mike St Johns, Jon Crowcroft
        [Jul-02]
        current
        Status:
        •   The document under development covers the need for research in general and identifies specific areas of research. The drafting group feels that an additional document focusing on operational concerns is needed to support ISOC’s effort to guide governments seeking advice on funding efforts. One or both documents needs to discuss the concerns with how funded research should inter-relate with IETF work. In particular, including funding for individual researchers to attend the IETF, but recognizing that the IETF itself is not a candidate for direct funding. The new, operational document will have Geoff, Rob, and James as responsible parties for the IAB; other area experts may be recruited as needed.
    • IAB IPV6 Deployment Workshop
        James Kempf reporting
        [Jul-02]
        current
        Status:
        •   A venue has been secured and date set
        •  A web page describing the workshop in English and Japanese is under development
        •  Full agenda not yet done; tied to available participants. This list is still evolving. James will produce a draft agenda based on input from Rob, Ran and others.
    • SC22 Liaison
        Leslie Daigle
        [Oct-02]
        current
        Status:
        •  Draft a a response to SC22 noting that the IAB has already agreed to the original offer of a category A liaison to SC22.


    Documents

    • IAB Considerations
      draft-iab-considerations-03.txt
        Sally Floyd
        [Dec-01]
        closed
        Status: Published as RFC 3426

    • Security considerations, including common security attacks
      draft-iab-sec-cons-02.txt
        Eric Rescorla
        [May-01]
        current
        Status: Editing
        1.  (current) New draft issued in January
        2.  (next) Send to IESG for publication
        •  This version addresses concerns raised by Ned Freed
    • Security Mechanisms for the Internet
      draft-iab-secmech-01.txt
        Charlie Kaufman, Steve Bellovin
        [May-01]
        current
        Status: IAB Review
        1.  (current) Charlie has incorporated all received comments
        2.  (next) A -02 version will be reviewed by IAB, then sent for IETF Call for Input by Leslie
    • A survey of Authentication Mechanisms
      draft-rescorla-auth-mech-00.txt
        Eric Rescorla
        [Apr-02]
        current
        Status: Editing
        1.  (current) Incorporate comments
    • Referential Integrity
        Fred Baker, Patrik Faltstrom
        [Jul-02]
        current
        Status: Drafting
        1.  (current) draft a document that describes the issues associated with referential integrity
    • Notifications
        Ted Hardie, James Kempf
        [Nov-02]
        current
        Status: Drafting
        1.  (current) draft a document that describes the issues associated with notifications
    • IRIs
        Ted Hardie
        [Nov-02]
        current
        Status: Drafting
        1.  (current) continuing discussion with Martin Duerst
    • Service Identifiers
        Mike St. Johns, Geoff Huston
        [Nov-02]
        current
        Status: Incorporating comments
        1.  (current) Comments received on initial draft. Some indicate that the current draft has eliminated too much of the context that motivated it. Some context will be restored in the next draft. Mike will provide the next draft, with Geoff’s input.
    • IETF IANA
      draft-iab-iana-01.txt
        Geoff Huston
        [Nov-02]
        current
        Status: incorporating comments
        1.  (current) comments received from IANA and ICANN indicate some confusion about why the MoU is not called out. This document describes the function of which the MoU is an instantiation; it thus cannot make a normative reference to the MoU. A future draft will make explicit the relationship between this document and the MoU.
    • Internet Architecture and End-to-End
        James Kempf, Rob Austein
        [Jul-02]
        current
        Status: Drafting
        1.  (current) James has published a draft and sent copies to Brian Carpenter, John Wroclawski, and the IESG. An IAB internal last call will be needed after feedback incorporated.

These minutes were prepared byTed Hardie; comments should be sent to iab-execd@iab.org. An online copy of these and other minutes is available at: http://www.iab.org/documents/IABmins/

The IAB Web page is at http://www.iab.org