12 October 2004
1. Roll call, Agenda Bash and Previous Minutes
- Roll call, Agenda Bash and Previous Minutes
- Review of Action Items
- Review of Documents
- IAB Liaison Reports
- Updates from IETF Liaisons
- IETF61 meeting prep
- IRTF Chair
- 2005 Nomcom – IAB job description
- Response to icann re TLDs
- Upcoming US FTC Spam Summit
- IAB Considerations in TEREDO documentation
- ATIS liaison manager
- IPv6 ULA proposal
- Other Regular Business
Leslie Daigle — IAB Chair
Harald Alvestrand — IETF/IESG Chair
Jun-ichiro Itojun Hagino
Lynn St. Amour — Liaison from ISOC
Vern Paxson — IRTF Chair
Bert Wijnen — Liaison from the IESG
Joyce Reynolds — Liaison from the RFC Editor
1.3 Previous Minutes
The minutes of the September 12 IAB meeting were approved.
2. Review of Action Items
The IAB expressed its gratitude to Pete Resnick for his efforts in convening the IAB Messaging Workshop.
(See Appendix A)
3. Review of Documents
(See Appendix B)
4. IAB Liaison Reports
Rob Austein, Bert Wijnen
It was reported that Steve Bellovin has resigned his AD position, and will step down following IETF61.
Nothing to report.
The IAB considered a report relating to the position of the RFC Editor in relation to work concerning Intellectual Property Rights (IPR) and the IETF publication process. While it is recognised that the existing procedures allow the IETF to direct the RFC Editor to publish a document within the scope of rights assigned to the IETF by the authors, it is unclear whether comparable rights are assigned to the RFC Editor in the case of publication of non-IETF documents.
The IAB noted a potential question to the RFC Editor as to whether there is an appropriate IAB action here as part of the IAB’s chartered responsibilities.
A new mailing list, email@example.com, has been set up. It provides a public way to reach all of the IRTF RG chairs, as well as the IRTF chair and the IRSG at-large members.
Consideration is being given to closing down the Services Management RG.
Lynn St Amour
Nothing to report.
5. Updates from IETF Liaisons
A review of new work proposals indicates that there is some interest within 802.11 in working on a new network management framework. Liaison activity has focussed on the base requirements that are driving this activity.
A liaison report has been passed to the IAB.
6. IETF61 meeting preparation
The IETF 61 plenary presentations will not have an IAB technical presentation, nor an IRTF RG presentation due to the scheduling of a single plenary in IETF 61.
The IAB will review the status of the Network Management RG as part of its IETF61 meeting agenda.
7. IRTF Chair Consideration
The Chair of the IRTF, Vern Paxson, reported that he would step down from this role in March 2005. The IAB noted that there was the opportunity to review the IRTF direction and the relationship between the IETF WGs and IRTF activity. A subcommittee of the IAB was tasked to prepare material on this topic for IAB review in November 2004.
The selection of a new chair of the IRTF will be made in the light of the IAB’s considerations of the role and direction of the IRTF.
8. 2005 Nomcom – IAB job description
It was noted that under the current IETF Nominating Committee processes, the IAB has to provide a description of the role of IAB members. The IAB undertook to provide this information.
9. Response to ICANN re TLDs
The IAB considered a response to the request from the ICANN CEO to the IAB
on the topic of new gTLDs.
The IAB noted the activity of the DNSOP WG, and proposed that operational guidelines for TLD operators may be a topic of relevance to that WG. The IAB also noted the earlier work undertaken by the
New TLD Evaluation Process Planning Task Force.
An IAB response will be passed back to ICANN on this topic.
10 Upcoming US FTC Spam Summit
The IAB has been adviced of the forthcoming US FTC Spam Summit. It was noted that there are concerns about IETF involvement in activities within one particular national regime. It was also noted that the IETF needs to communicate in relevant forums that closing down MARID is not a note of IETF resignation from the entire topic, and that the IETF intends to do more here. There is the intention to form other working groups and the IETF has definitely not abandoned this space.
The IAB will work with the relevant Area Director to confirm whether a presentation from the perspective of the IETF can be submitted to this Summit.
11 IAB Considerations in TEREDO documentation
One of the Internet ADs has requested a review of the IAB considerations in the Teredo specification with respect to the IAB’s original UNSAF advice. The IAB considered the issues of various transition and exit scenarios, and noted the associated issues of use of this form of technology for purposes related to NAT traversal. IAB advice will be provided to the IESG.
12 ATIS liaison manager
It was reported that the Association for Telecommunications Industry Standards (ATIS) are a group that is involved in IP network deployment and have an interest in working with the IETF in standards activity. The IAB noted that Alison Mankin is the delegated IETF person to liaising with ATIS in carrying this discussion with ATIS further as a part of an initial investigation.
13 IPv6 ULA Proposal
The IAB considered the IPv6 Unique Local Address draft status, and the role of scoped addresses in the IPv6 address architecture and the related issue of multiple-addressing with scope variations and the associated address selection process. This was seen to be related to the work being undertaken within the Multi6 WG, with address scope being the differentiator rather than end-to-end path viability. Some documentation activity on multi-address considerations is being considered by the IAB.
The IAB also will review the centrally-assigned unique local address with respect to the IANA Considerations of this draft.
14. Other Regular Business
No other items of business.
The meeting closed at 2255UTC.
- Coordinate preparatory work for a possible IAB ‘virtual’ workshop on IDN and related matters
- Compile a list of questions to be addressed in the context of a workshop
- Leslie, Patrik and John Klensin to review
- IAB Messaging Workshop
- Archive of workshop material to be created
- Workshop report to be prepared
- IPv6 Policies
IPv6 Ad HocAdvisory Committee
- Passed a set of current IPv6 issues to the ad-hoc IAB advisory committee on IPv6 addressing issues.
- ip6.int, hd-ratio, IANA allocation uni, IANA IPv6 registry terminiology.
- ENUM IPR posting from ITU-T
- Posting of ENUM IPR notice (referred to the IAB from the ITU-T) to the IETF’s IPR page
- Original request made on 14 July, followup on September 3 and October 12. Further escalation with Secretariat required.
- Review of Teredo and unsaf considerations
- Coordinate IAB response to AD request for comments on Teredo with resepct to UNSAF Considerations
- DNS Ops TLD Operation
Rob Austein, Itojun Hagino, Geoff Huston
- DNSOPS WG activity on TLD operational considerations. Offer of editorial assistance in any WG document to be made to the WG.
- Geoff to propose a WG action to the WG mailing list on the topic of opreational considerations for DNS Top Level Domains
- IPv6 Multi-Address Considerations
Bob Hinden, Rob Austein, Itojun Hagino, Geoff Huston
- Document considerations relating to address selection procedures and potential side effects in a multi-addressing environment with scoped and global addresses
- IPv6 Centrally Assigned ULAs
- Review draft and IPv6 WG considerations regarding IANA Considerations for this proposal
- ATIS Liaison
- Discussion with ATIS regarding possible liaison activity
- ICANN note re TLDs
- Draft response to ICANN
- IAB job description
- Draft response to 2004/5 Nomcom
- IRTF Review
Leslie Daigle, Pete Resnick, Jonathan Rosenberg, Bob Hinden, Mark Handley, Vern Paxson, Sally Floyd
- Prepare initial material relating to IRTF direction and role
- IAB Meetings at IETF61
Jonathan Rosenberg, Pete Resnick, All
- IAB Sunday pm meeting: ALG issues (Jonathan), Messaging Workshop (Pete), IRTF (all)
- A survey of Authentication Mechanisms
Status Editor Revision Current Action Revise as per comments from IETF call Next Step RFC Submission
- Internationalized Resource Identifiers
Status On Hold Current Action Part of IDN Workshop action
- Secure Autoconfiguration in IPv6
Status Editor Revision Current Action Propose to rework current summary as a framework description. Note original problem statement of the range of choices of discovery mechanisms. Next Step IETF Comment
- Protocol Models
Status Editor Revision Current Action Leslie and Eric to review IETF review comments in terms of the objectives of this documented approach to conceptual presentation of protocol operation. Next Step RFC Submission
- Internet Identities
Patrik Faltstrom, Geoff Huston
Status Editor Revision Current Action Incorporate IAB review comments. Reflect considerations of inter-relations of identities at different layers and impacts of making changes based on a single layer’s requirements. That revision will, in turn, reflect on the IP/locator split. Next Step IETF Comment
- DOS Attacks
Status Editor Revision Current Action Incorporate IAB review comments. Next Step IETF Comment
- Liaison Management
Status IETF Call for Input Current Action IETF Review Next Step Incorporate review comments
- Untangling Activeware
Status Editor Revision Current Action IAB consideration on the topic of the interaction of NATs, ALGs, Firewals, Application frameworks and IPv6 transition mechanisms Next Step Consider ways of devolving this in a manner that allows productive study of the interactions and inter-dependencies at play here Next Step Draft an abstract and outline for IAB review
- Top Level Domain Issues
Status Drafting Current Action IAB Review: Bernard, Geoff Next Step publish as draft-iab
- Use of DNS RRs in Mail Applications
Patrik Faltstrom, Rob Austein
Status Draft Review Current Action IETF review of draft Next Step Call for comment
- Architectural Implications of Link Layer Indications
Status Drafting Current Action Drafting Next Step publication as draft-iab document
- OMA Liaison Agreement
Status RFC Editor Current Action RFC Editor
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