Minutes IAB Teleconference January 18, 2006 1. Rollcall, Agenda Bash and Previous Minutes 1.1 Agenda 1. Rollcall, Agenda Bash and Previous Minutes 2. Review of specific actions 3. Review of specific documents 4. Regular Reports 5. NomCom / Confirmation planning 6. 802.1 liaison? 7. Note from Ran Atkinson re. input to USPTO 8. Workshop planning 9. APRICOT plan 10. IETF Journal 11. Network stories 12. Upcoming IAB meetings 13. AOB 1.2 Attendance PRESENT Bernard Aboba Loa Andersson Brian Carpenter -- IETF Chair Leslie Daigle -- IAB Chair Rich Draves -- IAB Executive Director Aaron Falk -- IRTF Chair Bob Hinden David Meyer Pekka Nikander Eric Rescorla Pete Resnick Joyce K. Reynolds -- Liaison from the RFC Editor Lynn St. Amour -- Liaison from ISOC Bert Wijnen -- Liaison from the IESG Lixia Zhang ABSENT Patrik Faltstrom Kurtis Lindqvist Jonathan Rosenberg 1.3 Previous Minutes December 21 minutes were approved. 2. Review of specific actions ISOC BoT appointment timeline There were a couple changes suggested for Rich's draft. Rich will circulate revised version later today for Leslie to post to ietf-announce. 3. Review of specific documents Guidelines for IETF Liaisons The IAB discussed several minor issues with the document. Leslie asked Loa to release the -01 revision to the I-D repository. Untangling Activeware Leslie noted that the IAB needs to decide what it is doing with this document. 4. Regular Reports ISOC Liaison Report Lynn St. Amour - ISOC's next Board meeting will be held February 10th and 11th in Utrecht, NL (just outside Amsterdam). It is an open meeting and the agenda will be posted soon. - IETF 20th anniversary - ISOC has engaged Susan Estrada to work with the IETF community to develop activities to celebrate the IETF's 20th anniversary. She is working with a committee and will present a plan to the IETF and IAB Chairs and to the ISOC CEO. - Internet Governance Forum - (follow-on to the earlier WGIG/WSIS efforts). There will be a consultation for all interested parties on February 16th and 17th in Geneva. ISOC will be attending and have asked to have a key role in any forum that is convened. IRTF Chair Report Aaron Falk - Planning IAB review of ASRG in Dallas - Planning plenary talk by new E2E RG co-chair, Craig Partridge, in Dallas based on recent E2E article in CCR, "Making the World (of Communications) a Better Place" - Developing RG document publication proposal based on pull from HIPRG, MOBOPTS, and ASRG - Expecting a bar-bof for Scalable Small Group Multicast RG proponents Sunday night in Dallas (invitation enclosed) - Received proposed charter for a MANET RG. Scope include multicast, expanded routing metrics (e.g., QoS), and simulation strategies/best practices. - A little concerned about lack of activity in ICCRG, several prods appear ineffective. - Attending workshop on 'Protocols for Fast, Long-Distance Networks' in Nara, Japan early Feb and giving report on TMRG draft. RFC Editor Report Joyce Reynolds - The RFC Editor has a contract in place for 2006 with the IAD/IASA. - We have installed an initial implementation of automated emails to notify authors of RFC State changes. An example: Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 12:26:03 -0800 Subject: [RFC State] has changed state To: tnadeau@cisco.com, subrah@cisco.com Cc: fenner@research.att.com, zinin@psg.com, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org The document draft-ietf-mpls-lc-if-mib-08 has changed from EDIT state to RFC-EDITOR state. We thought you'd like to know. You can check on your document's status at . IESG Liaison Report Bert Wijnen - as posted to the IETF Announce list (Jan 5th): The IESG has decided that as of now, any IESG-approved drafts that enter the AUTH48 state, where the RFC Editor waits for final text approval from all listed authors, may be released on the responsible AD's authority if any authors have not responded after a reasonable time, typically two weeks. - Also posted to the IETF Announce list (Jan 5th), the IESG has decided to take an RFC 3683 PR-Action for Dean Anderson. See announcement for details. - The IESG has received another appeal from Jefsey Morfin. This time he appeals the IESG decision to approve the rfc3066bis draft. For details, see: http://www.ietf.org/IESG/APPEALS/jefsey-morfin-appeal.txt - The IESG intends to issue an IETF Last Call to solicit input and comments on a possible PR-Action (RFC3683) against Jefsey Morfin. This action was requested from IESG by Harald Alvestrand based on input Harald has collected. - The IESG is working on selecting the best candidate for the IESG-appointed seat on the IAOC for the next 2 years. As was announced to the IETF Announce list (Jan 3rd), we only have 2 candidates to choose from. - The IESG did have an extra (informal) telechat on Jan 12th. This was to try and clear several documents that have been pending for approval for a long time. This first extra session was useful and also triggered discussions and follow up on the IESG mailing list. Several discussion were cleared and analyzed in much more detail. Also a number of documents got approved as a result of this extra attention to old documents. The IESG plans to have a few more of these extra (informal) telechats to try and clear more of these types of documents. The next one is scheduled for Jan 26th. - As reported earlier, the IESG will have an efficiency retreat on Jan 30-31 where we will try to evaluate and improve our efficiency. IEEE 802 Liaison Report Bernard Aboba (See http://www.iab.org/liaisons/ieee/2005-12-ieee802-liaison-report.html.) ITU SG15 (Optical Networking) Liaison Report Adrian Farrel (See http://www.iab.org/liaisons/sg15/2005-12-18.html.) 5. NomCom / Confirmation planning Dave reported that the nomcom is still working on one area for the IESG slate and that the IAB slate is progressing as well. Leslie noted that the IESG is anxious to know their replacements to start handoff before the IETF meeting. Brian noted that this was particular important for the new RAI area. Leslie asked if those new ADs can perhaps be confirmed/released early. Dave said the nomcom is sensitive to this but wants to avoid disclosure of derived information. Leslie noted that the IAB expects to see the entire IESG slate before confirming any part of it. Leslie noted that IAB members who were under consideration for the IESG will recuse themselves from confirmation of those positions and those positions will be handled first. Leslie reviewed the IAB's procedures for confirming candidates (http://www.iab.org/documents/docs/2003-12-09-iab-confirmation-process.html). Most notably, there must be a positive vote for confirmation, the IAB chair can not call the vote earlier than a week after receiving the slate, and not before a telechat to discuss. The IAB agreed to follow these procedures unless the IAB unamimously agrees to override. The IAB tentatively scheduled a telechat for Feb 8 to discuss the IESG slate. 6. 802.1 liaison? Bernard stated that he has no obvious candidates for IEEE 802.1 liaison. Bernard suggested that the IAB use the process suggested by David Kessens and take nominations from the community. Leslie felt this would be generally heavy-weight but appropriate here because Bernard had not found someone yet. Rich agreed to draft a note to the community, working with Bernard. 7. Note from Ran Atkinson re. input to USPTO The IAB discusses Ran Atkinson's suggestion that the IETF provide input to the USPTO and like organizations regarding prior art. The IAB noted that the IETF does not have an official archive of drafts. The IAB agreed that the idea has merit but doing something hasty would not be good; currently we can only point to the RFC archive. 8. Workshop planning Leslie reviewed the invitee status. The IAB agreed to ping folks who have not yet responded. The IAB also discussed inviting several additional folks, including more people with network access product experience and empirical studies to share. 9. APRICOT plan Dave said nothing further needed for his session, although he needed to follow-up with Erik Nordmark regarding his participation. Leslie said she'd been invited to participate in an APNIC policy session. Sentiment in the IAB did not favor this because there is the possibility of it being a political minefield. Leslie said she would review the request and make a proposal to the IAB list. 10. IETF Journal Leslie noted that there as been some discussion on the iab list of the proposed charter for the IETF Journal, but deferred more discussion to a future meeting. 11. Network stories The IAB deferred this agenda item to a future meeting, due to lack of time. Bernard noted the genesis of this agenda item was a request from Tim Shepard asking how everything happening in the internet area fit together into scenarios or stories. 12. Upcoming IAB meetings Leslie noted that Jan 25 is the next tech chat and Feb 1 is the next business meeting. The IAB discussed the success of its two-meetings-per-month schedule. Most thought it was an improvement but Rich and Leslie felt that it added significantly to their workload. Eric noted that the perl support on i1b.org prevented him from installing his preferred bug-tracker software. The IAB agreed to try using a wiki instead to track action and document status. Rich asked Aaron to prototype this. Leslie noted that easy cut-and-paste from the wiki to text minutes is a hard requirement. 13. AOB The IAB briefly discussed the status of the Jefsey Morfin appeal response. Two IAB members are drafting a response, ready for review at the end of the week. The IAB agreed that the response is not moot even if Jefsey's suspension is over. -- These minutes were prepared by Rich Draves; comments should be sent to iab-execd@iab.org. An online copy of these and other minutes is available at: http://www.iab.org/documents/iabmins/ The IAB Web page is at http://www.iab.org