Minutes 
IAB Teleconference

2010-05-12


1. Roll-call, agenda-bash, administrivia, approval of minutes

1.1.  Attendance

PRESENT

  Bernard Aboba
  Marcelo Bagnulo
  Ron Bonica  (IESG Liaison to the IAB)
  Ross Callon
  Spencer Dawkins
  Vijay Gill
  Russ Housley (IETF Chair)
  Olaf Kolkman (IAB Chair)
  Glenn Kowack (RFC Editor Liaison)
  Jon Peterson
  Dow Street (IAB Executive Director)
  Dave Thaler
  Hannes Tschofenig
    
    
APOLOGIES

  Aaron Falk (IRTF Chair)
  John Klensin
  Danny McPherson
  Andre Robachevsky
  Lynn St.Amour (ISOC Liaison)


1.2.  Agenda

The IAB encoding draft and OMA liaison items were added to the
agenda.  Further discussion of liaison shepherds was deferred until
the retreat.  

1.3.  Administrivia

No administrative items were discussed.    

1.4.  Meeting Minutes

No meeting minutes were reviewed during this call.


2.  Retreat Planning

2.1.  Retreat Logistics

There was a short discussion of retreat dining plans.

2.2.  Retreat Agenda

Olaf summarized the revised agenda for the retreat.  There are two
larger topics (privacy, internationalization) and two smaller
topics (loc-id split, power aware protocol design) planned for the
technical sessions.  The board also agreed to invite the Harvard
grad student studying IETF organizational behaviors to give a short
talk.  


3.  IETF 78 Plenary Status

Vijay reported that he and Marcelo met with Hal Varian, and had 
sent out meeting notes to the IAB list.  They also received a 
positive response from Bob Briscoe, and were waiting to hear back 
from Scott Shenker.  He expected the overall session should be well
defined by the next IAB meeting.

On a related topic, Olaf noted that there was a small possibility
of getting Commissioner Kroes from the EU to visit the meeting, in
which case the IAB would make a part of the plenary session 
available for her.  He expected to hear back from her office in the
next few weeks. 


4. OMA Liaison

Dean Willis is stepping down as OMA liaison, triggering the board
to review the current state of the liaison relationship.  Based on
input from Hannes, Spencer, and others, the board agreed that it
would be beneficial to continue the formal relation with OMA due to
ongoing work of mutual interest (message abuse, location protocols,
etc.)  Barry Lieba had recommended Murray Kucherawy (co-chair of
Message Abuse Reporting Format (marf) WG) to manage the liaison 
going forward; there was agreement that Murray would be a good
candidate.  Hannes will contact Murray, and will take over the IAB
shepherding role from Vijay.


5.  CONEX

Marcelo explained that there had been two BOFs on congestion
exposure (CONEX), and that this area of work is highly relevant to
the IAB plenaries on network neutrality and congestion economics.
There has now been a proposal to enable a set of CONEX experiments
following an approach similar to that used by HIP.  There was
consensus for the IAB to express support for this experiment to the
IESG.  Marcelo will draft a message.  Hannes then noted that there
are other nearer-term approaches in this area; he will write a
summary for the IAB.  


6.  AUTHMECH Document

Bernard summarized comments from the security area directors Tim 
Polk and Sean Turner, and he agreed with many of their 
recommendations, including a need to significantly re-organize the
material (and possibly split the draft into two separate docs).
The first half is primarily focused on the history of this area, 
and though it is reasonably complete, it was not clear to the board
that this should be or need be an IAB document.  There was general
agreement that the second half of the draft, which provides 
recommendations, would require significant new material to get it
to a relevant and publishable state.    After further discussion, 
there was board consensus to drop the AUTHMECH document from the 
IAB document stack.  The IAB will thank the authors for their long
work on this document, and suggest they continue work (if desired)
on the historical material via the Independent stream.


7.  Expiration impending: draft-iab-idn-encoding

Dave Thaler has been updating the IDN Encoding draft, and intends
to upload it to the repository tomorrow.  He asked for any final
comments from the IAB, and suggested that this version is likely
ready for IAB sign-off and then a community call for comments.


8.  IN-ADDR background

Olaf described that IN-ADDR.ARPA is currently being operated by
ARIN and that there are plans in development to move the 
function under IANA.  He had recently discussed the move with John
Curran (ARIN President), and the board discussed coordination that 
might be needed with ARIN and IANA in order to properly structure
the transfer.


9. Transitional RFC Series Editor Report

Glenn summarized his upcoming T-RSE report #2.  The effort is on
course, and it is becoming clearer what elements are in and out of
scope for the (i) T-RSE effort and the (ii) eventual RSE position.
He is continuing with community engagement and information 
gathering, and will be providing a more substantive update at the
IAB retreat.  He also noted that he will begin sitting in on the
IESG meetings.  


10.  Action Item Review

10.1.  Identifiers at the Applications Layer - DNS, URI/IRI, URN, 
Keywords, email addresses, etc.

This action ties into the encoding technical topic at the retreat.  

10.2.  IPv6 for IAB Business

No change.

10.3.  Evaluate Mapping of IAB Website and IAB Communication Processes

No change.


11.  Document Status

11.1.  IAB Thoughts on Encodings for Internationalized Domain Names

This document was discussed earlier in the meeting (agenda item 7).

11.2.  DNS Synthesis Concerns

Olaf indicated that he did not have time to push this document 
forward, and he asked if someone else wanted to take it over or if
the IAB should drop it.  Dave Thaler noted that it would still be
good to pursue, given draft-livingood-dns-redirect.  Dave, Hannes, 
and Olaf will meet offline to determine next steps. 

11.3.  A survey of Authentication Mechanisms

This document was discussed earlier in the meeting (agenda item 6).

11.4.  Design Considerations for Protocol Extensions

Bernard is taking over this document from Stuart, and intends to
address the outstanding comments by the next IAB meeting.

11.5.  Evolution of the IP Model

No change.

11.6.  IAB IANA Draft

This topic will be discussed at the IAB retreat, after which the
draft will be revised.

11.7.  IAB Thoughts on IPv6 Network Address Translation

This draft is in the RFC Editor queue.

11.8.  Architectural Considerations of IP Anycast

There was agreement that this draft is important and appropriate
for the IAB stream, but that further work is needed.


12.  Conclude Call