MINUTES FOR June 11, 1996 IAB TELECONFERENCE

PRESENT:

Fred Baker
Brian Carpenter
Robert Elz
Elise Gerich
Erik Huizer
John Klensin
Robert Moskowitz
Radia Perlman
Jon Postel
Yakov Rekhter
Chris Weider
Abel Weinrib
Don Heath

NEXT MEETING:

Joint IAB/IESG breakfast 7:00 Monday June 24 in Montreal at the LeCentre Sheraton.
Meeting 19:30 Tuesday June 25 at IETF in Montreal.
Open Session 19:30 Wednesday June 26 at IETF in Montreal.

ACTION ITEMS:

NEW ACTION ITEMS:

OLD ACTION ITEMS:

• Brian Carpenter: Get Bob Hinden to produce a document articulating the technical value of IPv6 beyond large addresses.
• Jon Crowcroft: Work with Claudio Topolcic to set up a BOF at the next IETF on deploying integrated services, etc.
• Chris Weider: report on other issues from RFC 1862.
• John Klensin: Prepare Jim Gettys note as an Internet Draft, so that we can decide whether or not to release it along with the spec. during the next conference call.

NOTES:

1. last call on any minutes still pending

2. review actions and drafts in progress

[IRTF charter, Charset workshop report, …]

IRTF draft shipped
Character set: version 2 out to list this morning. Chris will bring it to IETF meeting.

3. administrivia

IAB dinner: meet at reception at 8:00 on Sunday in Montreal.

4. IESG liaison report

Discussion of concerns about recent proliferation of “end-run” RFCs–RFCs about other protocols that are not on standards track but confuse the market.

This is a good topic for a joint IAB/IESG breakfast in Montreal.

5. Agenda for Montreal

Closed meeting:
security architecture
character sets

Open meeting:

character set workshop report
what we have been up to
IRTF guidelines
Sollins report on her working group?

security architecture (premature?)

6. security architecture follow-up

Decided not to present at IETF meeting. Instead, Robert Moskowitz, Steve Bellovin and Jeff Schiller will set up an invitational workshop focusing on security architecture in July around the time of USENIX.

Jeff Schiller will write up an overview of the current state of security in the Internet and Steve Bellovin will write up guidelines for how to address security in protocol design.

7. son of Clipper

This has been positioned by the government as primarily a political issue: the tradeoff between privacy and law enforcement. The key is to move the debate to securing the network to do commerce.

Should we write a technical document explaining why key escrow would be expensive, difficult to administer, open to industrial esponiage, etc.? Such a document would have to be rock solid, and not conclude that the scheme would be fine if only these problems were solved.

8. tunnel protocols (Allison)

NT 4.0 contains PPTP, not an Internet standard, and there are numerous others. Would one would be better than many?

We want any protocol that comes out with IETF “stamp” (RFC number, etc.) to have undergone IETF standardization process. The tunneling protocols should go through working group process. There will be a BOF in Montreal on this topic. (Should also make the point that the IETF standardization process often results in technically better protocols.)

Future Meetings

Open and closed meetings at IETF in Montreal.

Regular teleconference second Tuesday of the month at 10:00 AM Eastern Time.

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These minutes were prepared by Abel Weinrib, weinrib@intel.com. An online copy of these and other minutes are available at http://www.iab.org/documents/IABmins. Also, visit the IAB Web page at http://www.iab.org/iab.

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