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IAB Minutes 1996-10-08

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    Fred Baker
    Steve Bellovin
    Brian Carpenter
    Jon Crowcroft
    Robert Elz
    Elise Gerich
    Erik Huizer
    John Klensin
    Robert Moskowitz
    Radia Perlman
    Jon Postel
    Yakov Rekhter
    Abel Weinrib
    Don Heath


    Teleconference Tuesday November 12, 10-12 Eastern Time.



    • Fred Baker: Get feedback from the Operations area directors on proposal that the IAB be the approval body for IANA documents.


    • Brian Carpenter and Fred Baker: Deal with IANA document review issue on next IESG call.
    • Chris Weider: “Assigned numbers should be available from an online dictionary”–figure out what to do.
    • Brian Carpenter: Get relevant ISO standards documents (e.g., 10646) available to the IETF community online.
    • John Klensin: Arrange for a presentation on caching and replication at next IETF.
    • Brian Carpenter: Get Bob Hinden (or someone else) to produce a document articulating the technical value of IPv6 beyond large addresses.


    1. review actions and drafts in progress

      Character set report–Chris Weider is indicating that he needs to hand it off to someone else.
      Address behavior–ready to be sent for publication as an ID, then publish as informational RFC.

    2. administrivia

      Scenario planning… this is an elective activity, but neither before or after the IETF meeting will work. Friday is a possibility, but they want 1.5 days. Try to converge over email.

    3. IRTF news

    4. IESG liaison report

    5. security workshop – goals

      Outline of goals and proposed agenda sent to the IAB list.

      Attendance will be IAB and IESG members, plus additional participants identified by the security directorate. The goal is to get together people representing the full spectrum (IESG, IAB, etc.) of knowledge of security and protocols that require security to educate each other and identify opportunities and holes.

      Steve Bellovin and Bob Moskowitz will write a report promptly.

      Bell Labs will host the meeting at Murray Hill. Proposed date late February or early March; constraint is to have report ready for presentation at Spring IETF meeting.

    6. nominate 2 members for ad hoc TLD committee – we need to get done!

      Discussions were held by all; Brian Carpenter will now approach the top two candidates and invite them to serve.

    7. IANA documents (aka “IETF and operational resources”)

      Looking for feedback from Operations area directors, but none has been forthcoming.

    8. PANIX attack, any follow up?

      After PANIX attack, the CERT put out an advisory that ISPs should impose source filtering. They are worried that this breaks mobile IP. What should be done?

      There was considerable discussion around the architectural principle that the source address should be where the packet is coming from. This leads to sub-optimal routes for Mobile IP, although in practice you often need to tunnel to your home network in any case for security considerations.

      Decided to ask the area director for Routing to inform the Mobile IP working group that their protocol is at risk of being broken, and ask them to figure out how to fix it.

Future Meetings

    Regular teleconference second Tuesday of the month at 10:00 AM Eastern Time.

These minutes were prepared by Abel Weinrib, An online copy of these and other minutes are available at Also, visit the IAB Web page at