MINUTES FOR OCTOBER 16, 2000 IAB TELECONFERENCE
PRESENT:
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Rob Austein
Harald Alvestrand
Steve Bellovin
Brian Carpenter
Jon Crowcroft
Leslie Daigle
Steve Deering
Tony Hain
Don Heath (ISOC liaison)
Erik Huizer (IRTF Chair)
Geoff Huston
Joyce Reynolds (RFC Editor liaison)
Henning Schulzrinne
Abel Weinrib (IAB Executive Director)
NEXT MEETING:
NEW ACTION ITEMS:
- John Klensin: Create small task team to consider how IETF policies and procedures might be changed to overcome perception and reality of being slow.
- Leslie Daigle (as NomComm liaison): Talk to NomComm chair re. ensuring adequate process & documentation in place for IAB to handle any additional issues of appeals that may come out of the fact that half the NomComm comes from only two companies.
- John Klensin: Respond to David Maher that we don’t have any concrete technical input to his question, but want to be kept posted.
OLD ACTION ITEMS:
- Brian Carpenter: Arrange “middle boxes” IAB workshop.
- Ongoing. Aiming for March. Increasingly related to hot topic of content distribution networks.
- Harald Alvestrand: Arrange “International Internet” IAB workshop. Fred Baker, Randy Bush, John Klensin… site committee.
- Ongoing. Workshop should be a get-together to bless the results from the pre-workshop. Aiming for early in ’01.
- Henning Schulzrinne: Telephony Services PSTN interworking draft as an IAB document.
- Ongoing. Draft by next call.
- Rob Austein and Brian Carpenter: Review and potentially update RFC 1958.
- Ongoing.
IAB DRAFTS IN PROGRESS:
- Geoff Huston: QOS
- Ongoing. In RFC Editor queue.
- Erik Huizer: Network Layer Workshop report.
- Done.
- Ran Atkinson: Security considerations, including common security attacks.
- Ongoing.
- Harald Alvestrand: Directory definitions.
- Ongoing.
- Tony Hain: NAT/VPN
- Ongoing. In RFC Editor queue.
- Leslie Daigle: Security, firewalls, proxies, etc.
- Ongoing. In RFC Editor queue.
- Steve Bellovin: Applicability statement for security building blocks.
- Ongoing.
- Tony Hain: The case for IPv6.
- Ongoing.
- Steve Deering: Routing Workshop report as Informational RFC.
- Ongoing. In RFC Editor queue.
- Brian Carpenter: Wireless workshop report.
- Ongoing. In RFC Editor queue.
NOTES:
1. review actions
see above
2. review drafts in progress
see above
3. administrivia
3.1 November teleconf schedule–stick to November 13, usual time.
3.2 Face-face in San Diego: Tuesday December 12, evening.
3.3 Rescheduling meeting time (starting January)?
Proposal is second Monday of the month; 2-4 US East Coast time. Last call to list. (Second choice was 12-2, but Eric can’t make that time.)
4. IRTF report and news
Plenary presentation opportunity is drawing quite a few volunteers.
5. IESG liaison report and news
6. Other liaisons and external issues
6.1 3GPP
No information update.
6.2 E164.ARPA
Nothing new until ITU SG2 meeting this week and next.
6.3 ICANN at-large elections
Results are out. Interesting to see what impact will be. Led to discussion about how we (IETF community) is not very good at “politics,” but has most of the “clue” re. the Internet protocols and architecture. We need to figure out how to get back to basics of injecting “clue,” rather than spending time trying to play politics.
6.4 Nomcom
With half of the NomComm coming from only two companies, there is the danger we will face a perception problem re. appearance of balance and/or tampering in final results. Consensus among the IAB is that the IAB liaison (Leslie Daigle) Talk to NomComm chair re. ensuring adequate process & documentation in place for IAB to handle any additional issues of appeals that may come out of the fact that half the NomComm comes from only two companies. Also, Leslie will suggest to NomComm Chair that requesting a liaison from ISOC might be a good idea.
7. Pending Workshops
Both are ongoing, with no dates set:
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Internationalization workshop status (Harald)
Middlebox workshop status (Brian)
8. ISOC public policy discussion
(We owe David Maher a response on the FCC report and payment arrangements for international Internet connections.)
Long discussion led to no consensus on what would be technical response. At this time, we should respond that we have no concrete technical input for David. However, we would like to be kept posted–we may have more helpful insight once more concrete proposals (if any) are on the table.
9. Another round of reform?
Perception (and to some extent reality?) is that IETF is slow making standards. Consensus that we should create a small task team (including ex-IESG members) to reconsider some of the policies and procedures. Need a problem statement before San Diego; objective data, measures of external perceptions, etc. would be great as well.
On another front, should we form a committee to focus on liaisons with industry, other standards bodies, etc.? This might allow IAB to focus on architecture, and might also help improve external perception.
These minutes were prepared by Abel Weinrib