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IAB Minutes 2002-06-11

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IAB Meeting — Teleconference

11 June 2002, 3:00pm – 4:40pm US EST


    Leslie Daigle — IAB Chair
    Harald Alvestrand — IETF/IESG Chair
    Ran Atkinson
    Rob Austein
    Fred Baker
    Sally Floyd
    Ted Hardie
    Geoff Huston
    Jim Kempf
    Eric Rescorla
    Mike St. Johns
    Erik Nordmark — Liaison from the IESG
    Vern Paxson — IRTF Chair
    Lynn St.Amour — Liaison from ISOC


    Steve Deering
    Charlie Kaufman
    Joyce K. Reynolds — Liaison from the RFC Editor


    Tuesday, July 9, 2002.



    0. Rollcall, Agenda Bash and Previous Minutes

    1. Review of Action Items

    2. Review of Documents

    3. Liaison Reports

      As a followup to comment from the IESG, the IAB reviewed the process used in reaching a position regarding a response to the Committee on ICANN Evolution and Reform. It was noted that there was no process failure in this instance, and the IAB has the responsibility for managing external liaisons for the IETF. It was noted that there is an exercise of judgement as to the manner of consultation undertaken by the IAB in each case. It was noted that further clarification could be undertaken on the roles and responsibilities of the management entities within the IETF by updating the IAB role description documents and consideration of an IESG charter.

      The PSO General Assembly will take place on Wednesday, 19 June, at the ITU Headquarters, Geneva, starting at 16:00 CET. No IETF nominee is available for this meeting, so a request will be made for an observer to attend and report on the meeting.
      The ISO application to join the PSO was reconsidered, and further clarification was to be sought by the PSO regarding ISO’s conformance to the PSO eligibility criteria.

      Lynn St Amour provided a general outline of the potential role of ISOC within a .org registry proposal, and the desired outcomes for ISOC in this activity. The proposal will be forwarded to the IAB at the expiration of non- disclosure conditions associated with the preparation of the proposal.

    4. Review of IAB Role Description (“What does the IAB do, anyway?“)

      Due to time constraints for this call, consideration of the need to update this document was deferred to the IAB list.

    5. Preparation for Yokohama IAB Meetings

      An IAB retreat is planned for Sunday July 14 to discuss the IETF structure of external relationships, and consider various scenarios and options for the IETF in this area. The initial planning call is scheduled for Friday 14 June. The ISOC VP Standards, Scott Bradner, the immediate past IAB chair, John Klensin and the Chair of the ISOC Board, Brian Carpenter are invited onto the call to review the broader IETF structure as it exists today. A second planning call is scheduled for Wednesday 26 June to discuss external relationships and the IETF’s role.
      The IAB plenary is scheduled for the evening of Thursday, 19 July. The proposed plenary agenda includes a presentation from the IRTF on the topic of a report from Eliot Lear on matters considered by the NameSpace research group. The IAB report is intended to include a summary of recent IAB documents and documents in progress, preliminary report from the IAB Network Management workshop, and a report on the IAB response to the ICANN Reform process. The documents to be reported are proposed to be “IAB Considerations” and “Security Considerations”. The IAB discussed the structure for the open microphone section of the Plenary, and concluded that the use of two microphones, one for new topics and the other for continued responses to the current topic, was of some benefit. It was proposed that in addition to a time constraint of 2 minutes per speaker, a topic time limit of 15 minutes per current topic be used, allowing the topic to be rescheduled to the end of the new topic queue. It was proposed that the IETF Secretariat operate the timers. It was suggested that this arrangement be announced in advance on the IETF Announce list.



    • Mobile Networks Workshop proposal
        James Kempf
        [Apr 02]

        • Status: A draft has been prepared of a proposal for a workshop to examine the issue of network interoperability with active boundary gateways, such as found in 3G architectures, without resorting to ALGs and proxies.
        • 1. pass this proposal to the Transport ADs and consult with them over the appropriate course of action
        • 2. prepare a problem statement for IAB review
    • IAB Retreat – Sunday pm, July 14, Yokohame IETF venue
        Leslie Daigle
        [Apr 02]

        • Venue request lodged with IETF Secretariat
    • IAB Mailer
        Leslie Daigle
        [Apr 02]

        • redelegation of to IETF Secretariat DNS requested
    • IAB Network Management Workshop
        Ran Atkinson
        [Feb 02]

        • Status: Workshop completed, with a number of outcomes, including the proposal for the IETF to investigate configuration management without specific reference to SNMP-based approaches. A BOF on this topic will be scheduled for Yokahama.
        • Workshop report to be prepared.
    • PSO General Assembly
        Lynn St Amour
        [May 02]

        • Suggest an observer to attend PSO GA in Geneva for the IETF
    • ISO Liaisons
        Leslie Daigle
        [May 02]

        • Status: ISO SC2 liaison is Pete Resnick and ISO SC29 liaison is Steve Casner. Directory Liaison is now part of SC6, where the current liaison is Allison Mankin.
    • ENUM
    • RFC Submission review
        Geoff Huston
        [May 02]

        • Circulate proposed process for review to IAB and IESG
        • Investigate web and email support tools
    • ITU Liaison
        James Kempf, Leslie Daigle, Scott Bradner
        [May 02]

        • Status: Established a mailer for IAB/IESG participants



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