Minutes
IAB Teleconference

9 December 2003

ATTENDING

APOLOGIES

NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING

AGENDA

0. Roll call, Agenda Bash and Previous Minutes
1. Review of Action Items
2. Review of Documents
3. IAB Liaison Reports
4. Updates from IETF Liaisons
5. Workshop Proposals
   • IEEE/IETF meeting – IAB workshop or no?
   • SPAM workshop Proposal

6. ICANN Board of Trustees Liaison
7. ISOC Board of Trustees appointment for 2004
8. IAB Review of Confirmation Process for new IESG candidates
9. Other Regular Business

NOTES

0. Roll call, Agenda Bash and Previous Minutes

   Minutes of the 4 November Teleconference were approved.

   Minutes of the IAB Meetings at IETF 58 were approved.

1. Review of Action Items

   (see below)

2. Review of Documents

   (see below)

3. IAB Liaison Reports

   IESG
   Rob Austein:, Bert Wijnen:

   • Appeal on closing of GROW WG was upheld and Bert Wijnen will discuss with GROW WG (chairs) if and how to continue.

   • Bert is taking over Randy Bush’s WGs as primary AD till new AD is appointed. The situation seems manageable for the short term till we hope to get a new AD.

   RFC Editor
   Joyce Reynolds:

   • The RFC Editor held its traditional lunch meeting with Leslie, Harald and Lynn at the Minneapolis IETF.

   • RFC Editor contract extension for calendar 2004 has been agreed to. The contract is currently being executed.

   • REF state review on wgchairs list.

   IRTF
   Vern Paxson:

   • The Name Space Research Group has been closed.

   • John Levine has replaced Paul Judge as co-chair of the Anti- Spam Research Group.

   • The ASRG chairs have drafted a new proposed charter now under consideration.

   • The new MOBOPTS (IP Mobility Optimizations) RG just needs its mailing list set up, for which I’ve put in a request.

   • There has been discussion over the evolution of HIP within both the IETF and the IRTF, with the latter tying to more general research on splitting identifiers from locators, but the exact form of the efforts has not yet been determined.

   • Jabber chat rooms have been set up for each RG at jabber.org.

   The IAB considered the rechartering to the ASRG, and considered the various options in terms of spinning up associated IETF WG efforts in this area. The general view was that where the ASRG had identified specific mechanisms that could be of relevance or utility, that such mechanisms be passed to the IETF for consideration as a WG effort. The IAB also considered the work item of a technology overview of this domain. It was considered that this would remain within the ASRG charter at present.

   ISOC
   Lynn St Amour:

   • Report on the situation with respect to the WSIS meeting in Geneva Dec 5 – 12. The topic relating to governance and the Internet appears (at this point in time) to be heading to a new working group. A number of articles published by ISOC on WSIS topics have been collected at http://www.isoc.org/news.

   IAB Advisory Committee
   Leslie Daigle:

   • The Advisory Committee Report has been published as an Internet draft document (draft-iab-advcomm-00.txt. Followup activities to this report will be reported under the topic of administrative restructuring. Proposals relating to this activity are being prepared by Leslie and Harald.

4. Updates from IETF Liaisons

   ITU-T
   Scott Bradner:

   • Possible arrangements relating to coordination of activity with ITU-T Study Groups are currently being considered by Study Group chairs.

   W3C
   Leslie Daigle:

   • No items reported

   ICANN – TLG
   Geoff Huston:, Mike St Johns

   • No items reported

   ICANN – Liaison to the Board
   John Klensin:

   • John Klensin has suggested that the IAB review the ICANN document: ” Staff Manager’s Issue Report on the Need for a Predictable Procedure for Changes in the Operation of TLD Registries”. (http://www.icann.org/gnso/issue-reports/registry-svcs-report-19nov03.htm)

     There is a concern that the procedures described in this proposal may not allow for technical input into whether a particular proposed change is problematic from a protocol or operational side-effect until very late in the process if at all. John Klensin is monitoring the progress of this proposal. The IAB may wish to provide specific input to this via the liaison.

   RSSAC
   Rob Austein:

   • In recent weeks the committee has been considering possible recommendations to ICANN about the interactions between glue records, DNS message truncation, and under what circumstances the DNS specifications leave the choice of the precise response up to the server implementation. The topic has been initially considered in the context of adding IPv6 addresses for servers into the responses (AAAA Resource Records), and has exposed a more general issue of interpretation of the DNS specifications as described above. No conclusions regarding recommendations have been formed to date.

5. Workshop proposals

   5.1 IEEE/IETF meeting – IAB workshop or no?

   While the proposed meeting is considered to be timely and useful, the IAB determined that the meeting to be held in January at the IEEE venue would not be conducted as an IAB Workshop. The meeting will be conducted as an informal activity, and will involve the IETF through the relevant Area Directors and Working Group chairs.

   A meeting report will be passed to the IAB.

   It was noted that recent activity has exposed a number of issues regarding the decision as to the most appropriate venue to undertake standardization activities. The specific topics where this has arisen to date include aspects of distributed wireless Access Point control protocols and aspects of 3GPP activity relating to network device discovery.

   In the context of this matter, the IAB considered the broader topic of liaison with IEEE 802 activities. It was noted that individual 802 groups have a higher level of autonomy in terms of meeting arrangements than IETF WGs and to designate a single IETF liaison to IEEE 802 would provide logistically challenging in terms of meeting attendance. The IAB expressed interest in the concept of a liaison coordination role, where individual liaisons between the IETF and 802 groups may be designated for specific purposes through this coordination role. This form of liaison will be referred to the IESG and IEEE for comment.

   5.2 SPAM workshop Proposal

   It was noted that NIST have a workshop scheduled for 17 Feb 2004 on this topic (http://csrc.nist.gov/spam/). It was considered not appropriate to proceed with an IAB workshop proposal, and to review the situation following the NIST workshop. Vern Paxson will contact the workshop convenor to discuss the form of contribution the ASRG could make to the NIST workshop.

6. ICANN Board of Trustees liaison

   The original term of the liaison to the ICANN Board of Directors has expired with the ICANN 2003 AGM.

   The IAB expressed its appreciation of John Klensin’s efforts in this role through 2003.

   The IAB determined to re-appoint John Klensin as liaison to the ICANN Board of DIrectors for a further term.

7. ISOC Board of Trustees appointment for 2004

   The IAB reviewed the process for the selection of an IETF appointed member of the ISOC Board of Trustees. It was noted that the process to be followed is documented in draft-iab-isocbot.

   The timetable for 2004 was considered, noting that a first call would need to be made early in January 2004.

   The IAB noted that the 2004 process would allow candidates to be considered by both the IETF process and the ISOC Nominations Committee, but that short lists of potential candidates would be reviewed to ensure that no candidate was nominated by both processes.

8. IAB Review of Confirmation Process for new IESG candidates

   The IAB reviewed the process for the confirmation of Nominated candidates for IESG slots.

   The process used will be that as documented in the Minutes of the IAB Meeting, June 10, 2003 (Section 8.2), with the amendment that the IAB will undertake its best endeavour to make a decision according to the process within the stipulated time period allowed for confirmation, and not allow the decision process to lapse. If there are extenuating circumstances that do not permit the IAB to make a decision within the necessary timeframe, then these circumstances shall be handled as appropriate.

9. Other Regular Business

   No other items of regular business

IAB ACTIONS and DOCUMENTS

These minutes were prepared by Geoff Huston; comments should be sent to iab-execd@iab.org. An online copy of these and other minutes is available at: http://www.iab.org/documents/IABmins/

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