Minutes
IAB Teleconference
13 January 2004
ATTENDING
Bernard Aboba
Harald Alvestrand — IETF/IESG Chair
Patrik Fältström
Sally Floyd
Jun-ichiro Itojun Hagino
Mark Handley
Geoff Huston
Charlie Kaufman
James Kempf
Eric Rescorla
Mike St. Johns
Vern Paxson — IRTF Chair
Bert Wijnen — Liaison from the IESG
Joyce Reynolds — Liaison from the RFC Editor
APOLOGIES
Lynn St. Amour — Liaison from ISOC
NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING
AGENDA
- Roll call, Agenda Bash and Previous Minutes
- Review of Action Items
- Review of Documents
- IAB Liaison Reports
- Updates from IETF Liaisons
- OMA Liaison
- National Communications System RFI concerning Internet Priority Services for National Security and Emergency Preparedness (NS/EP) communications
- Rejuvenating SAAD?
- Other Regular Business
[IAB Voting Members] - Nomcom Confirmation
NOTES
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Roll call, Agenda Bash and Previous Minutes
Minutes of the 9 December Teleconference were approved.
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Review of Action Items
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Review of Documents
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IAB Liaison Reports
IESG
Rob Austein:, Bert Wijnen:-
IESG (after consultation with WG chairs list) asked secretariat to split IETF-Announce list into a “ID-Announce” and a regular “IETF-Announce” list. The secretariat is preparing to implement, via a staged implementation.
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IESG will be discussing (with RFC-Editor input solicited) what the exact expectations are for IESG review of Individual submissions coming in via the RFC-Editor. Hopefully this will clarify things (yet) more.
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IESG is discussing new guidelines for spam filtering on IETF mailing lists. Once we’ve worked out a proposed text we will solicit review/input from the IETF community.
Note, it might be good to have some more interaction between IESG and IAB on this, as the IAB has discussed the topic as well w.r.t. the mail lists they maintain for IAB.
The IAB discussed the current processing rate of documents in the IANA wait state. Given the noted concerns from both the IESG and IAB on this, the topic will be raised with IANA.
RFC Editor
Joyce Reynolds:-
We are preparing a set of RFC Editor rules on how to implement Scott Bradner’s “IETF Rights in Contributions” documents (draft-ietf-ipr-wg-guidelines-05.txt, draft-ietf-ipr-submission-rights-08.txt, and draft-ietf-ipr-technology-rights-12.txt).
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The RFC Editor is still working on RFC publication, but the contract is not in place yet. However, we do have an extension of the old contract through 31 March 2004.
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We have been actively conscientious about the use of XML for RFCs-to-be, but XML has not been supplied by a lot of folks. (Four XML source submissions, so far.)
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The RFC Editor will shortly set up and announce a new mailing list, rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org, as a home for discussions particularly related to the functions and procedures of the RFC Editor. Official IETF-related business like standards procedures will not be allowed on the list — it will focus on issues specific to the editing and publication of RFCs, and related RFC Editor functions. It is intended to provide a useful conduit for communication between the community and the RFC Editor (and should have been set up 10 years ago!)
IRTF
Vern Paxson:-
The ASRG has been rechartered
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The MOBOPTS RG has been launched
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A new charter for the Routing RG is now under discussion
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A new research group focussed on HIP, or, perhaps quite a bit more broadly within the general area of introducing an identifier/locator split into the IP architecture, is under consideration. Parallel to this discussion is another related discussion concerning a possible HIP working group within the IETF. Any IRTF decision will await the outcomes of IETF consideration.
The IAB decided to further consider the architectural issues associated with an ID/Locator split. The format of this activity is to be determined.
ISOC
Lynn St Amour:-
RFC Editor: Statement of work and 2004 budget has been agreed by all parties. A contract extension is in place while we complete the legal review (expected to be complete by the end of January). The ISOC Budget also has provisions for additional direct funding for the IETF, and covers IETF & IAB discretionary expenses, and D&O Insurance.
Administrative Restructuring
Leslie Daigle:-
Harald and Leslie have met with CNRI to discuss administrative restructing arrangements.
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Updates from IETF Liaisons
ITU-T
Scott Bradner:-
No items reported
W3C
Leslie Daigle:-
No items reported
ICANN – TLG
Geoff Huston:, Mike St Johns- No items reported
ICANN – Liaison to the Board
John Klensin:-
No items reported
RSSAC
Rob Austein:-
No items reported
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OMA Liaison
The IAB was briefed on the progress of the discussions with the OMA regarding a potential liaison between the OMA and the IETF.
A proposed liaison agreement, based on the existing documented liaison agreements with 3GPP and 3GPP2, was passed to the IAB for consideration. It was proposed for the IAB to pass this response to the Board of the OMA.
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National Communications System RFI concerning Internet Priority Services for National Security and Emergency Preparedness (NS/EP) communications
The IAB noted that while such priority override services were provisioned into the PSTN, there was no directly analogous mode of service override in the IP architecture. A pointer to the IEPREP WG’s work is to be provided to the RFI issuer.
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Rejuvenating SAAD?
The broader topic of scoped address architectures also encompasses the id/locator split discussion, and the topic is being considered concurrently in a number of IETF-related fora.
There is a concern that a fragmented consideration of this topic will be ineffectual for the IETF, and to this end the SAAD discussion forum will not be promoted as a place to consider this topic.
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Other Regular Business
8.1 Potential ANSI Liaison
The IAB considered the current status of a potential liaison arrangement with ANSI.
8.2 Visa Arrangements for Korea IETF Meeting
Harald will followup with the IETF Secretariat in providing information to IETF members relating to visa requirements for travel to Korea.
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Nomcom Confirmation
The voting members of the IAB met in their capacity as a confirmation body for IESG candidates, and confirmed the IETF Nomination Committee’s candidate to fill the rest of Randy Bush’s OPS Area Director term.
IAB ACTIONS and DOCUMENTS
Actions
- DNS and IDN Document
Rob Austein, Patrik Faltstrom, Geoff Huston
[Feb-03]
current
Status: Coordinate IETF document between Ads and WGs- A document to answer the specific issues about IDN is needed.
- IANA instruction for 2.0.0.2.IP6.ARPA
Geoff Huston
[Jul-03]
current
Status: Draft instructions to IANA concerning instruction to delegate 2.0.0.2.IP6.ARPA to the RIRs- Advised RIRs that Patrik Faltstrom and Rob Austein are to be involved in the RIR implementation, as IAB-nominated experts, to assist in the design. Initial RIR design draft has been passed to Patrik and Rob for comment.
- IAB ExecD has been advised that the RIRs have formed the Number Resource Organization (NRO), and the NRO is expected to encompass common RIR functions such as proposed here. The RIRs have been requested to advise the IAB if the NRO is to be the intended delegation point. Awaiting RIR response to this query.
- IAB Mailer
Rob Austein, Geoff Huston
[Jul-03]
current
Status: Add virus scanner and some form of challenge/response gateway to IAB mailer to manage increasing spam volume- Define a mail environment that includes spam scanning and challenge response
- With IESG nominee (Bill Fenner) work with Secretariat to install anti-spam measures
- OMA Liaison
Geoff Huston
[Sep-03]
current
Status: Proposed response to be considered by IAB- Pass IAB response to OMA Board
- IPv6 Address Architecture
James Kempf, Mike St Johns
[Nov-03]
current
Status: review IPv6 address architecture (draft-ietf-ipv6-addr-arch-v4-00.txt)- Itojun has responded
- Mike to respond to IPv6 WG by 20/1
- Liaison to Global Grid Forum
Leslie Daigle
[Nov-03]
current
Status: Advised GGF’s Charlie Catlett of Brian Carpenter as the IETF’s liaison to the GGF- Request Brian Carpenter to submit a list of items for possible IETF attention from the GGF perspective
- Charlie Catlett is interested in having some kind of coordination / discussion phone call sometime in the new year – based on Brian’s list
- Leslie to ping Brian for the list
- IETF / IEEE 802 joint workshop
Bernard Aboba, James Kempf, Russ Housley, Thomas Narten
[Nov-03]
closed
Status: Commence organisation of a joint IETF / IEEE 802 workshop, involving chairs of IEEE 802, & IETF WGs that need to work together. POtential topics to be covered include IETF DNA / IEEE handoff ECSG, EAP WG / 802.11, CAPWAP / 802.1af/802.11 and IRTF Mobility/ IEEE Fast Handoff SG- Meeting will proceed as an informal meeting
- Review of ICANN Document : Registry changes
Geoff Huston
[Dec-03]
current
Status: Review ICANN document relating to changes in registry services and procedurtes relating to technology-related input and role of tech input- Short note to be drafted for IAB review
- IEEE / IETF Meeting Jan 04
Bernard Aboba
[Dec-03]
current
Status: Circulate meeting report to IAB - IEEE Liaison
Leslie Daigle, Bernhard Aboba, Bert Wijnen
[Dec-03]
current
Status: Check on acceptability of liaison coordination role with IESG and IEEE - NIST Spam Workshop
Vern Paxson
[Dec-03]
current
Status: Interest has been expressed by NIST for IAB & ASRG participation in the workshop (http://csrc.nist.gov/spam/)- Patrik Faltstrom will attend the workshop
- ISOC BoT Selection Process
Geoff Huston
[Dec-03]
current
Status: Commenced process Jan-04 - ID / Locator Architectural Consideration
James Kempf, Bernard Aboba, Eric Rescorla
[Jan-04]
current
Status: Propose a format for IAB meeting on this topic at next IETF meeting (open slot, IAB Tech, Joint with IESG) - NS/EP Communications
Mike St Johns
[Jan-04]
current
Status: Provide response to the National Security and Emergency Preparedness Communications RFI concerning the work aready undertaken in the context of the IEPREP WG
Documents
- Security Mechanisms for the Internet
draft-iab-secmech-03.txtCharlie Kaufman, Steve Bellovin
[May-01]
closed
Status: RFC3631- (current)
- A survey of Authentication Mechanisms
draft-iab-auth-mech-02.txtEric Rescorla
[Apr-02]
current
Status: Revision- (current) completing IPR text as separate note
- (next) Leslie to undertake an IETF Call
- Internet Architecture and End-to-End
draft-iab-e2e-futures-04.txtJames Kempf, Rob Austein
[Jul-02]
current
Status: Revision- (current) minor revision in response to IETF comment
- (next) Submission as IAB Informational
- Internationalized Resource Identifiers
draft-iab-char-rep-00.txtLeslie Daigle
[Nov-02]
current
Status: Drafting- (current) Leslie to revise the draft
- Transport Controls for VOIP
draft-iab-congestion-01.txtSally Floyd, James Kempf
[Nov-02]
current
Status: Revision- (current) minor revision in response to IETF comment
- (next) Submission as IAB Informational
- ISOC Trustee Appointment Process
draft-iab-isocbot-01.txtLeslie Daigle
[Nov-02]
closed
Status: RFC3677- (current)
- IAB Research Agenda
draft-iab-research-funding-02.txtSally Floyd, Vern Paxson, Ran Atkinson, Mike St Johns, John Crowcroft
[Jul-02]
current
Status: Revision- (current) minor revision in response to IETF comment
- (next) Submission as IAB Informational
- IAB Overview
http://www.iab.org/about/description.htmlEric Rescorla
[Mar-03]
closed
Status: Published- (current)
- IAB Considerations on Discovery Mechanisms and IPv6
Bernard Aboba, James Kempf
[Mar-03]
current
Status: Drafting- (current) Redraft as a descriptive framework plus individual proposed contributions as desired
- (next) Bernard will circulate draft
- Protocol Models
draft-iab-model-00.txtEric Rescorla
[May-03]
current
Status: Review- (current) draft published
- (next) Revise as per comments received
- Internet Identities
draft-iab-internet-identities-00d.txtPatrik Faltstrom, Geoff Huston
[Jul-03]
current
Status: Drafting- (current) Document on Internet Identity realms
- (next) Cross-reference this document with e2e document
- DOS Attacks
draft-iab-dos-00.txtMark Handley
[Sep-03]
current
Status: Review- (current) draft published
- (next) Revise as per comments received
- AdvComm Report
draft-iab-advcomm-output-01.txtLeslie Daigle
[Nov-03]
current
Status: Publication- (current) Publish committee report as info RFC
- Liaison Management
draft-iab-liaison-mgmt-00.txtLeslie Daigle
[Nov-03]
current
Status: Revision- (current) Revise with comments in conjunction with baker draft
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