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IAB Telechat

12 October 2004

1. Roll call, Agenda Bash and Previous Minutes

1.1 Agenda

  1. Roll call, Agenda Bash and Previous Minutes
  2. Review of Action Items
  3. Review of Documents
  4. IAB Liaison Reports
  5. Updates from IETF Liaisons
  6. IETF61 meeting prep
  7. IRTF Chair
  8. 2005 Nomcom – IAB job description
  9. Response to icann re TLDs
  10. Upcoming US FTC Spam Summit
  11. IAB Considerations in TEREDO documentation
  12. ATIS liaison manager
  13. IPv6 ULA proposal
  14. Other Regular Business

1.2 Attendance

Leslie Daigle — IAB Chair
Harald Alvestrand — IETF/IESG Chair
Bernard Aboba
Rob Austein
Sally Floyd
Mark Handley
Jun-ichiro Itojun Hagino
Bob Hinden
Geoff Huston
Eric Rescorla
Pete Resnick
Jonathan Rosenberg
Lynn St. Amour — Liaison from ISOC
Vern Paxson — IRTF Chair

Apologies

Patrik Faltstrom
Bert Wijnen — Liaison from the IESG
Joyce Reynolds — Liaison from the RFC Editor

1.3 Previous Minutes

The minutes of the September 12 IAB meeting were approved.

2. Review of Action Items

The IAB expressed its gratitude to Pete Resnick for his efforts in convening the IAB Messaging Workshop.

(See Appendix A)

3. Review of Documents

(See Appendix B)

4. IAB Liaison Reports

IESG
Rob Austein, Bert Wijnen

  • It was reported that Steve Bellovin has resigned his AD position, and will step down following IETF61.

RFC Editor
Joyce Reynolds

  • Nothing to report.

The IAB considered a report relating to the position of the RFC Editor in relation to work concerning Intellectual Property Rights (IPR) and the IETF publication process. While it is recognised that the existing procedures allow the IETF to direct the RFC Editor to publish a document within the scope of rights assigned to the IETF by the authors, it is unclear whether comparable rights are assigned to the RFC Editor in the case of publication of non-IETF documents.

The IAB noted a potential question to the RFC Editor as to whether there is an appropriate IAB action here as part of the IAB’s chartered responsibilities.

IRTF
Vern Paxson

  • A new mailing list, rgchairs@ietf.org, has been set up. It provides a public way to reach all of the IRTF RG chairs, as well as the IRTF chair and the IRSG at-large members.

  • Consideration is being given to closing down the Services Management RG.

ISOC
Lynn St Amour

  • Nothing to report.

5. Updates from IETF Liaisons

IEEE 802
Bernard Aboba

  • A review of new work proposals indicates that there is some interest within 802.11 in working on a new network management framework. Liaison activity has focussed on the base requirements that are driving this activity.

  • A liaison report has been passed to the IAB.

OMA
Dean Willis

6. IETF61 meeting preparation

The IETF 61 plenary presentations will not have an IAB technical presentation, nor an IRTF RG presentation due to the scheduling of a single plenary in IETF 61.

The IAB will review the status of the Network Management RG as part of its IETF61 meeting agenda.

7. IRTF Chair Consideration

The Chair of the IRTF, Vern Paxson, reported that he would step down from this role in March 2005. The IAB noted that there was the opportunity to review the IRTF direction and the relationship between the IETF WGs and IRTF activity. A subcommittee of the IAB was tasked to prepare material on this topic for IAB review in November 2004.

The selection of a new chair of the IRTF will be made in the light of the IAB’s considerations of the role and direction of the IRTF.

8. 2005 Nomcom – IAB job description

It was noted that under the current IETF Nominating Committee processes, the IAB has to provide a description of the role of IAB members. The IAB undertook to provide this information.

9. Response to ICANN re TLDs

The IAB considered a response to the request from the ICANN CEO to the IAB
 on the topic of new gTLDs.

The IAB noted the activity of the DNSOP WG, and proposed that operational guidelines for TLD operators may be a topic of relevance to that WG. The IAB also noted the earlier work undertaken by the
New TLD Evaluation Process Planning Task Force.

An IAB response will be passed back to ICANN on this topic.

10 Upcoming US FTC Spam Summit

The IAB has been adviced of the forthcoming US FTC Spam Summit. It was noted that there are concerns about IETF involvement in activities within one particular national regime. It was also noted that the IETF needs to communicate in relevant forums that closing down MARID is not a note of IETF resignation from the entire topic, and that the IETF intends to do more here. There is the intention to form other working groups and the IETF has definitely not abandoned this space.

The IAB will work with the relevant Area Director to confirm whether a presentation from the perspective of the IETF can be submitted to this Summit.

11 IAB Considerations in TEREDO documentation

One of the Internet ADs has requested a review of the IAB considerations in the Teredo specification with respect to the IAB’s original UNSAF advice. The IAB considered the issues of various transition and exit scenarios, and noted the associated issues of use of this form of technology for purposes related to NAT traversal. IAB advice will be provided to the IESG.

12 ATIS liaison manager

It was reported that the Association for Telecommunications Industry Standards (ATIS) are a group that is involved in IP network deployment and have an interest in working with the IETF in standards activity. The IAB noted that Alison Mankin is the delegated IETF person to liaising with ATIS in carrying this discussion with ATIS further as a part of an initial investigation.

13 IPv6 ULA Proposal

The IAB considered the IPv6 Unique Local Address draft status, and the role of scoped addresses in the IPv6 address architecture and the related issue of multiple-addressing with scope variations and the associated address selection process. This was seen to be related to the work being undertaken within the Multi6 WG, with address scope being the differentiator rather than end-to-end path viability. Some documentation activity on multi-address considerations is being considered by the IAB.

The IAB also will review the centrally-assigned unique local address with respect to the IANA Considerations of this draft.

14. Other Regular Business

No other items of business.

The meeting closed at 2255UTC.

Appendix A

IAB Actions

  • IDN
      Geoff Huston
      Feb-03
      Status:current
      Actions:

      • Coordinate preparatory work for a possible IAB ‘virtual’ workshop on IDN and related matters
      •  Compile a list of questions to be addressed in the context of a workshop
      •  Leslie, Patrik and John Klensin to review
  • IAB Messaging Workshop
      Pete Resnick
      Apr-04
      Status:current
      Actions:

      • Archive of workshop material to be created
      • Workshop report to be prepared

  • IPv6 Policies
      IPv6 Ad HocAdvisory Committee
      May-04
      Status:current
      Actions:

      • Passed a set of current IPv6 issues to the ad-hoc IAB advisory committee on IPv6 addressing issues.
      • ip6.int, hd-ratio, IANA allocation uni, IANA IPv6 registry terminiology.
  • ENUM IPR posting from ITU-T
      Leslie Daigle
      Sep-04
      Status:current
      Actions:

      • Posting of ENUM IPR notice (referred to the IAB from the ITU-T) to the IETF’s IPR page
      • Original request made on 14 July, followup on September 3 and October 12. Further escalation with Secretariat required.
  • Review of Teredo and unsaf considerations
      Jonathan Rosenberg
      Sep-04
      Status:current
      Actions:

      • Coordinate IAB response to AD request for comments on Teredo with resepct to UNSAF Considerations
  • DNS Ops TLD Operation
      Rob Austein, Itojun Hagino, Geoff Huston
      Sep-04
      Status:current
      Actions:

      • DNSOPS WG activity on TLD operational considerations. Offer of editorial assistance in any WG document to be made to the WG.
      • Geoff to propose a WG action to the WG mailing list on the topic of opreational considerations for DNS Top Level Domains
  • IPv6 Multi-Address Considerations
      Bob Hinden, Rob Austein, Itojun Hagino, Geoff Huston
      Sep-04
      Status:current
      Actions:

      • Document considerations relating to address selection procedures and potential side effects in a multi-addressing environment with scoped and global addresses
  • IPv6 Centrally Assigned ULAs
      Leslie Daigle
      Sep-04
      Status:current
      Actions:

      • Review draft and IPv6 WG considerations regarding IANA Considerations for this proposal
  • ATIS Liaison
      Alison Mankin
      Sep-04
      Status:current
      Actions:

      • Discussion with ATIS regarding possible liaison activity
  • ICANN note re TLDs
      Patrik Faltstrom
      Sep-04
      Status:current
      Actions:

      • Draft response to ICANN
  • IAB job description
      Geoff Huston
      Sep-04
      Status:current
      Actions:

      • Draft response to 2004/5 Nomcom
  • IRTF Review
      Leslie Daigle, Pete Resnick, Jonathan Rosenberg, Bob Hinden, Mark Handley, Vern Paxson, Sally Floyd
      Sep-04
      Status:current
      Actions:

      • Prepare initial material relating to IRTF direction and role
  • IAB Meetings at IETF61
      Jonathan Rosenberg, Pete Resnick, All
      Sep-04
      Status:current
      Actions:

      • IAB Sunday pm meeting: ALG issues (Jonathan), Messaging Workshop (Pete), IRTF (all)

Appendix B

IAB Documents

  • A survey of Authentication Mechanisms
    draft-iab-auth-mech

      Eric Rescorla
      Apr-02

      Status Editor Revision
      Current Action  Revise as per comments from IETF call
      Next Step RFC Submission
  • Internationalized Resource Identifiers
    draft-iab-char-rep

      Leslie Daigle
      Nov-02

      Status On Hold
      Current Action  Part of IDN Workshop action
  • Secure Autoconfiguration in IPv6
     

      Bernard Aboba
      Mar-03

      Status Editor Revision
      Current Action  Propose to rework current summary as a framework description. Note original problem statement of the range of choices of discovery mechanisms.
      Next Step IETF Comment
  • Protocol Models
    draft-iab-model

      Eric Rescorla
      May-03

      Status Editor Revision
      Current Action  Leslie and Eric to review IETF review comments in terms of the objectives of this documented approach to conceptual presentation of protocol operation.
      Next Step RFC Submission
  • Internet Identities
    draft-iab-identities

      Patrik Faltstrom, Geoff Huston
      Jul-03

      Status Editor Revision
      Current Action  Incorporate IAB review comments. Reflect considerations of inter-relations of identities at different layers and impacts of making changes based on a single layer’s requirements. That revision will, in turn, reflect on the IP/locator split.
      Next Step IETF Comment
  • DOS Attacks
    draft-iab-dos

      Mark Handley
      Sep-03

      Status Editor Revision
      Current Action  Incorporate IAB review comments.
      Next Step IETF Comment
  • Liaison Management
    draft-iab-liaison-mgmt

      Leslie Daigle
      Nov-03

      Status IETF Call for Input
      Current Action  IETF Review
      Next Step Incorporate review comments
  • Untangling Activeware
     

      Jonathan Rosenberg
      Apr-04

      Status Editor Revision
      Current Action  IAB consideration on the topic of the interaction of NATs, ALGs, Firewals, Application frameworks and IPv6 transition mechanisms
      Next Step Consider ways of devolving this in a manner that allows productive study of the interactions and inter-dependencies at play here
      Next Step Draft an abstract and outline for IAB review
  • Top Level Domain Issues
     

      Jonathan Rosenberg
      May-04

      Status Drafting
      Current Action  IAB Review: Bernard, Geoff
      Next Step publish as draft-iab
  • Use of DNS RRs in Mail Applications
    draft-iab-dns-choices

      Patrik Faltstrom, Rob Austein
      Jun-04

      Status Draft Review
      Current Action  IETF review of draft
      Next Step Call for comment
  • Architectural Implications of Link Layer Indications
     

      Bernard Aboba
      Jun-04

      Status Drafting
      Current Action  Drafting
      Next Step publication as draft-iab document
  • OMA Liaison Agreement
    draft-iab-oma-liaison

      Geoff Huston
      Mar-04

      Status RFC Editor
      Current Action  RFC Editor

These minutes were prepared by the IAB Executive Director, Geoff Huston. Any comments should be sent to
iab-execd@iab.org. An online copy of these and other minutes is available at: http://www.iab.org/documents/iabmins/

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