Minutes
IAB Business Meeting
June 10, 2005
1. Rollcall, Agenda Bash and Previous Minutes
1.1 Agenda
- Rollcall, Agenda Bash and Previous Minutes
- Action List Review
- Document Status Review
- Liaison Reports
- GGF liaison — replacing Brian Carpenter
- IETF liaison to ICANN Board
- Bernard’s IEEE document
- Meta-SDO liaising
- ISOC’s strategic operating plan
- AOB
1.2 Attendance
Leslie Daigle — IAB Chair
Loa Andersson
Rich Draves — IAB Executive Director
Aaron Falk — IRTF Chair
Patrik Fältström
Bob Hinden
Kurtis Lindqvist
David Meyer
Pekka Nikander
Eric Rescorla
Jonathan Rosenberg
Lynn St. Amour — Liaison from ISOC
Lixia Zhang
Brian Carpenter — IETF Chair
Pete Resnick
Joyce K. Reynolds — Liaison from the RFC Editor
Bert Wijnen — Liaison from the IESG
Allison Mankin — Liaison from the IESG
Absent
Bernard Aboba
1.3 Previous Minutes
Minutes from May are accepted.
2. Review of Action Items
(See Appendix A)
3. Review of Documents
(See Appendix B)
4. Liaison Reports
The following Liaison Reports were submitted to the IAB.
ISOC
Lynn St. Amour
ISOC is hiring a senior director of public policy. The position has been posted for 6 weeks and has attracted about 30 candidates. Lynn expects to vet a name with the IETF & IAB chairs.
IESG
Bert Wijnen
IESG discussed (today in fact) the JointSDO drafts (which were also forwarded to IAB yesterday). IESG agreed that the drafts do no harm, that we do not want to make a specific IETF quote/statement and that we do not need a formal liaison yet but instead will encourage technical participation from IETF NM experts. Bert to follow up on that.
IESG is still working to publish the documents that came out of MARID, despite the known issues, because we feel that stable specifications are useful for later analysis. It seems that someday we’ll be getting a knock on our door about building reputation systems, and that finding a way to do that without being dragged into business model decisions will be hard.
RFC Editor
Joyce Reynolds
After 6+ years as Director of ISI’s Computer Networks Division, Joseph Bannister has decided to step down in order to focus on research interests. Concurrent with Bannister’s stepping down, the division’s Deputy Director, Clifford Neuman, will be returning to a research focus.
ISI and the RFC Editor staff welcomes John Wroclawski as the new Director of our division. Joining John as the division’s Deputy Director will be Terry Benzel, currently ISI’s Assistant Director for Special Projects.
IRTF
Aaron Falk
- Met by phone with most RG chairs
- Reducing frequency of RG reporting to once per IETF, or every four months
- Near creation on two new RGs on Models for Transport and Congestion Control
- Discussed processes for creating IAB-initiated RGs at the IAB retreat
- Proposing a tag of “IRTF Report” for use in IRTF-sponsored RFCs
- Planning CCR article on ‘why the research community should participate in the IRTF’
- May attend USENIX workshop on “Steps to Reducing Unwanted Traffic on the Internet” in July
IEEE 802
Bernard Aboba
See http://www.iab.org/liaisons/ieee/2005-06-ieee802-liaison-report.html.
5. GGF liaison
The IAB discussed candidates for liaison to the Global Grid Forum. The IAB chose David Chadwick (Prof at Univ of Kent in UK). Leslie will inform him; Rich will ask ietf-action to update mailing list.
6. IETF liaison to ICANN Board
Already discussed in action list.
7. Bernard’s IEEE document
The IAB decided that draft-aboba-ieee802-rel-04.txt should be published as an IAB Informational RFC. Allison Mankin and Bert Wijnen volunteered to find an IESG person to provide input. Loa volunteered to shepherd the document for the IAB.
8. Meta-SDO liaising
The IAB discussed the proliferation of meta-SDO meetings and the pros and cons of participating in these meetings. The IAB considered asking ISOC to represent the IETF at these meetings, because they call more for business/political expertise than engineering expertise. The IAB decided to decline participation for now, unless someone shows up who wants to participate. Leslie will reply to panel invitation.
9. ISOC’s strategic operating plan
Lynn reported that ISOC is working on a strategic operating plan. The plan bridges the ISOC’s vision, mission, and annual budget. Putting these principles on paper will help chapters and members understand what ISOC cares about. Lyman Chapin has been involved in drafting this document. Lynn wants to know if the document captures ISOC’s role in standards (send feedback to her or Lyman). Eric, Bob, Loa volunteer to read and provide this feedback.
10. AOB
There was no other business.
Appendix A
IAB Actions
Global Standards Conference
Leslie Daigle, Brian Carpenter
Initiated: May 2005
Goal: Should the IETF participate this year? If so, who? Leslie will ask for the agenda because a week seems excessive.
Status: Confirmed that next meeting is in Sophia Antipoles, but Scott Bradner can not attend. We have nobody who wants to attend, so we will decline to participate.
IESG Concerns Regarding RFC Processing
Brian Carpenter, Leslie Daigle
Initiated: May 2005
Goal: Resolve concerns regarding lack of visibility into RFC Editor state, copy-editing, and excessive author changes in AUTH48. Gather feedback from community.
Status: IESG will produce a draft before the Paris cutoff and a General Area BOF is tentatively planned.
IAB Web Site
Rich Draves
Initiated: April 2005
Goal: Review and update the public web site. Find a private web site.
Status: Public web site up-to-date, fixed many broken links. No progress yet on private web hosting.
IAB Retreat Arrangements
Jonathan Rosenberg
Initiated: April 2005
Goal: Arrange meeting space, hotel rooms, etc for the IAB retreat, June 9/10 near IAD.
Status: Done
IDN Ad Hoc
Patrik Faltstrom
Initiated: March 2005
Goal: Create a mailing list and initiate discussion for IAB ad hoc committee on Internationalized Domain Names.
Status: No progress. Pete Resnick volunteers to help.
ICANN BoT Liaison
Leslie Daigle
Initiated: March 2005
Goal: Per discussion with John Klensin — we need to find a new liaison.
Status: Done – Thomas Narten has accepted the position.
ICANN TLG Liaison
Leslie Daigle
Initiated: March 2005
Goal: Inform ICANN that we are not renewing a liaison to the ICANN TLG
Status: Done, may be reopened pending an informal discussion with Vint.
IAB Messaging Workshop
Pete Resnick
Initiated: April 2004
Goal: Issue workshop report and create archive of workshop material.
Status: Co-editor is missing notes for one section. IAB should discuss relevance of this document.
IPv6 Policies
IPv6AD Hoc Advisory Committee
Initiated: May 2004
Goal: Passed a set of current IPv6 issues to the ad-hoc IAB advisory committee on IPv6 addressing issues: ip6.int deprecation, hd-ratio considerations, minimum IANA IPv6 allocation unit, IANA IPv6 registry terminology and format
Status: Thomas wrote a revised charter, Leslie in discussions with Thomas.
DNS Ops TLD Operation
Kurtis Lindqvist, Dave Meyer, Lixia Zhang
Initiated: September 2004
Goal: DNSOPS WG activity on TLD operational considerations. Offer of editorial assistance in any WG document to be made to the WG.
Status: Kurtis has circulated a draft draft to some people.
IPv6 Multi-Address Considerations
Bob Hinden
Initiated: September 2004
Goal: Document considerations relating to address selection procedures and potential side effects in a multi-address- ing environment with scoped and global addresses
Status: No progress. Bob advises dropping this document if he can’t make progress by Paris.
Tech Chat Schedule
Leslie Daigle, Loa Andersson, Pekka Nikander
Initiated: November 2004
Goal: Create tech chat schedule, topic proposals due from Loa and Pekka
Status: Pekka proposes MPLS & Mobility. We will discuss later in the retreat.
Architectural Issues
Pekka Nikander
Initiated: April 2005
Goal: Revise/maintain the list of architectural issues on the IAB web pages. These can also be discussed at the IAB retreat and guide future tech chat topic selection.
Status: Dave Meyer volunteers to help.
RFC Editor Copyright
Leslie Daigle
Initiated: November 2004
Goal: Pass RFC Editor Copyright provisions to IETF legal counsel for review with respect to permissions relating to protection of IETF interests, integrity of the IETF Standards Track documents for derivative works and relation to any third party interests in the material published by the RFC Editor.
Status: Jorge Contreras says the provisions on the RFC Ed web site are still broken. Brian will forward Jorge’s opinion to RFC Ed.
Research Note document proposal
Aaron Falk
Initiated: November 2004
Goal: Convene a group consisting of Vern Paxson, Brian Carpenter, Aaron Falk, and Leslie Daigle, assisted by Sally Floyd and Mark Handley to document this proposal and highlight related considerations for the IAB.
Status: Presented ideas on marking (some) IRTF documents ‘IRTF Report’ to IAB; need to review with IRSG and RFC Editor.
ISOC BoT Selection
Rich Draves, Leslie Daigle
Initiated: November 2004
Goal: Before the next round, review the RFC 3677 process.
Status: We will discuss in Paris.
Proposed Congestion Control RG
Aaron Falk
Initiated: January 2005
Goal: Consult with ADs on the potential role for such a RG
Status: Made contact with Mark Handley, scheduling call between him and Allison Mankin on charter, discussing potential co-chairs.
Appendix B
Documents
A survey of Authentication Mechanisms
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-auth-mech-04.txt
Eric Rescorla
Initiated: April 2002
Status: Revision (current draft has expired)
Current action: It’s a background item for Eric but he does intend to work on it.
Next step: RFC Submission
Internationalized Resource Identifiers
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-char-rep-02.txt
Leslie Daigle
Initiated: November 2002
Status: Revision (current draft has expired)
Current action: No progress.
Secure Autoconfiguration in IPv6
Bernard Aboba
Initiated: March 2003
Status: Revision
Current action: No progress on this document but progress with Russ on documenting usage of EAP.
Next step: IETF Review
Protocol Models
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-model-03.txt
Eric Rescorla
Initiated: May 2003
Status: RFC Editor
Current action: In AUTH48.
Internet Identities
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-identities-02.txt
Patrik Faltstrom, Leslie Daigle
Initiated: July 2003
Status: IETF Review
Current action: Patrik will get XML from Geoff and talk with Leslie.
Next step: IETF Call
DOS Attacks
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-dos-02.txt
Eric Rescorla
Initiated: September 2003
Status: Revision (current draft has expired)
Current action: Eric has taken document from Mark Handley, converted text to XML, updated with most comments. It’s on his front-burner. Geoff requested a rewrite of one section; Eric is thinking about how to do that.
Untangling Activeware
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-nat-traversal-considerations-00.txt
Jonathan Rosenberg
Initiated: April 2004
Status: Revision
Current action: No progress, still expects update prior to Paris.
Top Level Domain Issues
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-dns-assumptions-02.txt
Jonathan Rosenberg
Initiated: May 2004
Status: IETF review
Current action: Jonathan is circulating new draft for comments; has gotten good comments from some folks. Will wait until Monday then submit new draft, wait a further week and submit to RFC Editor.
Design Choices When Expanding DNS
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-dns-choices-02.txt
Patrik Faltstrom
Initiated: June 2004
Status: Review
Current action: -02 version just submitted.
Next step: Patrik is researching some objections from namedroppers.
Architectural Implications of Link Layer Indications
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-link-indications-01.txt
Bernard Aboba
Initiated: June 2004
Status: IETF review
Current action: What seemed like a fairly routine request for clarification of terminology turned out to be somewhat more complex since it turned out that the IEEE 802.21 and DNAv6 WGs were using different definitions of terms such as “link”, “link up”, “link down”, etc. Also, terminology was not being used consistently within DNA WG documents, or between DNAv6 and DNAv4. After 3 weeks of DNA WG discussion, I think we have agreement on terminology, but I want to run this by the WG one last time before issuing the -02 version of link indications.
Next step: Review with WG one last time, then issue -02.
IAOC Selection Procedure
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-iesg-iaoc-selection-01.txt
Bert Wijnen
Initiated: December 2004
Status: Review
Current action: No further IESG or IAB comments.
Next step: Ready for IETF last call.
IRTF Review
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-irtf-01.txt
Leslie Daigle, Aaron Falk
Initiated: December 2004
Status: Review
Current action: Aaron will incorporate Dave Meyer’s comments.
Next step: IETF Call
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