Minutes
IAB Teleconference
February 1, 2006
1. Rollcall, Agenda Bash and Previous Minutes
1.1 Agenda
- Rollcall, Agenda Bash and Previous Minutes
- Action List Review
- Document Status Review
- Workshop planning
- APRICOT plan
- IETF Journal
- IETF65 Planning
- Network stories
- Upcoming IAB meetings
- AOB
1.2 Attendance
Present
Bernard Aboba
Loa Andersson
Brian Carpenter — IETF Chair
Leslie Daigle — IAB Chair
Rich Draves — IAB Executive Director
Bob Hinden
David Meyer
Eric Rescorla
Pete Resnick
Joyce K. Reynolds — Liaison from the RFC Editor
Jonathan Rosenberg
Lynn St. Amour — Liaison from ISOC
Bert Wijnen — Liaison from the IESG
Lixia Zhang
Absent
Aaron Falk — IRTF Chair
Patrik Faltstrom
Kurtis Lindqvist
Pekka Nikander
1.3 Previous Minutes
January 4 minutes were approved.
2. Action List Review
(See Appendix A)
3. Document Status Review
(See Appendix B)
4. Workshop planning
The IAB discussed the dearth of policy types in the attendee list. Eric took the action of generating several names in this area to invite. The IAB noted that we should make sure these folks understand the technical nature of the audience and discussion.
Leslie noted that we will need to send email to the attendees to set expectations regarding agenda and content. Rich took the action of setting up a mailing list on i1b.org.
The IAB discussed the workshop agenda. We have two days of material but realistically folks will want to leave by Friday afternoon, to get home for the weekend. The IAB agreed to start Thursday at 8am and finish at 1pm on Friday, with an optional dinner on Wednesday and optional lunch on Friday after the close.
The IAB agreed that Loa and Lixia will each bring a scribe. If the final attendance allows, we may have room for a third scribe. Rich asked for the scribes’ email addresses.
Leslie asked for further discussion of the workshop agenda and sessions in email.
5. APRICOT plan
The IAB briefly discussed planning for APRICOT. Dave said he doesn’t need anything for his session, but Patrik had emailed some requests for Patrik’s session.
6. IETF Journal
The IAB discussed the IETF Journal, including its proposed charter and whether the IAB should have representation on the editorial team. Some felt that the IETF Journal was really an ISOC activity and the IETF needed to make its own decisions about how best to do external communication. The IAB did not agree whether the IETF Journal was the best approach or whether external communication was in the IAOC charter. The IAB agreed that some oversight of the IETF Journal is necessary, but there was no agreement on how or who. Eric took the action of reading the draft charter and producing comments in the next week. Pete also took the action of bringing issues to the iab list.
7. IETF65 Planning
Leslie proposed the usual IAB meeting schedule for IETF, starting with Sunday lunch with the IESG, meeting Sunday afternoon, and breakfast meetings (some joint with IESG) Monday through Friday. Brian noted that the IESG is considering scrapping one of its breakfasts so it can mingle with the general population. Leslie noted that a conversation with the nomcom chair would be a good topic for a joint IAB/IESG meeting. Brian noted that the Monday breakfast focus would be BOFs, isntead of a less-focused “state of the area” discussion.
The IAB agreed to discuss DHTs at the plenary. Eric has this action.
8. Network stories
There wasn’t time for this agenda item, and the IAB agreed to drop it.
9. Upcoming IAB meetings
Leslie noted that Febuary 8 is held for a potential IESG slate confirmation discussion, February 15 is our next business meeting, and February 22 is our next tech chat.
The IAB agreed to discuss the security properties of NATs in the tech chat. Eric, Bob, and Jonathan volunteered to lead the discussion.
10. AOB
Following the IAB teleconference, a subset of the IAB discussed some issues relating to confirmation of the nomcom’s IESG slate and questions resulting from the Jefsey Morfin appeal response.
Appendix A
Action Items
IEEE 802.1 liaison
Assigned to: Bernard Aboba
Initiated: December 2005
Goal: Appoint a liaison for 802.1, subordinate to our 802 liaison manager.
Old Status: Bernard to write-up requirements for the position.
New Status: Solicitation letter sent out.
IAB/IETF Liaison Web Page Update
Assigned to: Rich Draves
Initiated: December 2005
Goal: Rationalize the IAB and IETF liaison web pages, eliminating duplication.
New Status: Done.
ISOC BoT Appointment Timeline
Assigned to: Rich Draves
Initiated: December 2005
Goal: Create a timeline for the IAB’s appointment to the ISOC board.
Old Status: Rich sent draft timeline to the list. The IAB agreed that the draft timeline should be revised so that the “old” IAB (prior to Spring IETF) solicits candidates and the “new” IAB makes the selection, in accord with historical practice.
New Status: Done, Leslie sent out timeline/solicitation.
Investigate Wiki/BugTracker for IAB Status Updates
Assigned to: Rich Draves, Eric Rescorla
Initiated: December 2005
Goal: Figure out if the IAB should use wiki or bugtracker software on its private web site to track its action/document status.
Old Status: Investigating BugTracker is on Eric’s list.
New Status: Aaron prototyped actions in the wiki. IAB will give the wiki a try.
Workshop on Bad Traffic
Assigned to: Leslie Daigle, Rich Draves, etc
Initiated: October 2005
Goal: Hold an IAB workshop on Unwanted Traffic.
Old Status: Eric updated workshop description, Pete pulled together draft invite list, Bernard drafted invitation email, Lixia drafted agenda/session structure, Rich investigated hotel options.
New Status: First round of invitations sent. Hotel and meeting space reserved. Participants assigned to sessions.
MFA Liaison
Assigned to: Loa Andersson
Initiated: September 2005
Goal: Find a new MFA liaison, since Andy Malis is now President of the MFA Forum.
Old Status: Leslie polled IESG for any final objections to our selection… No objections raised, so we’re working on confirming the selection’s willingness and announcing.
New Status: Done, Matthew Bocci confirmed and announced.
Scope of IETF Architecture
Assigned to: Dave Meyer, Allison Mankin
Initiated: August 2005
Goal: Create an effort to develop a statement of the scope of the IETF architecture.
Old Status: Leslie has the action item to resummarize. I pinged Allison a while back.
New Status: Deleting this action – no way forward without input/definition from Allison or the IESG.
IDN Ad Hoc
Assigned to: Patrik Faltstrom, Pete Resnick
Initiated: March 2005
Goal: Create a mailing list and initiate discussion for IAB ad hoc committee on Internationalized Domain Names.
Old Status: Summary discussed with individuals in the IAB-IDN committee, and I hope to be able to write up the result after IETF week.
New Status: Done, the ad hoc committee has concluded. See status of draft-iab-idn-nextsteps.
Architectural Issues
Assigned to: Pekka Nikander
Initiated: April 2005
Goal: Revise/maintain the list of architectural issues on the IAB web pages.
Old Status: One data page drafted. Slowly filling data to others. For hosting, we could partition the IAB’s private web site into public and private areas and host a public wiki.
New Status: No progress.
Appendix B
Documents
A survey of Authentication Mechanisms
Link: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-auth-mech-04.txt
Assigned to: Eric Rescorla
Initiated: April 2002
Old Status: Eric has Brian’s comments. Editing.
New Status: No progress.
Internationalized Resource Identifiers
Link: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-char-rep-01.txt (expired)
Assigned to: Leslie Daigle
Initiated: November 2002
Last Updated: February 2006
Old Status: Sadly, no change, and no change likely this month.
New Status: Same
DOS Attacks
Link: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-dos-03.txt
Assigned to: Eric Rescorla
Initiated: September 2003
Old Status: IETF Call for Input issued Oct 29, concluded Nov 26. Editing. No progress.
New Status: No progress.
Untangling Activeware
Link: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-nat-traversal-considerations-00.txt (expired)
Assigned to: Jonathan Rosenberg
Initiated: April 2004
Old Status: Sets Jan 31 as deadline for new draft; will review in Feb 1 mtg.
New Status: 70% complete draft sent to IAB on Feb 1, will collect comments and complete Feb 8.
IAB Messaging Workshop
Link: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-messaging-report-01.txt
Assigned to: Pete Resnick
Initiated: April 2004
Old Status: -01 draft sent to RFC Editor.
New Status: In RFC Editor queue.
Top Level Domain Issues
Link: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-dns-assumptions-03.txt
Assigned to: Jonathan Rosenberg
Initiated: May 2004
Old Status: Still in RFC Editor queue.
New Status: In Auth48.
Design Choices When Expanding DNS
Link: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-dns-choices-02.txt
Assigned to: Patrik Faltstrom
Initiated: June 2004
Old Status: Next up after idn-nextsteps.
New Status:
Architectural Implications of Link Layer Indications
Link: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-link-indications-04.txt
Assigned to: Bernard Aboba
Initiated: June 2004
Old Status: -04 will be submitted week of Dec 19.
New Status: -04 has been submitted.
IAOC Selection Procedure
Link: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-iesg-iaoc-selection-03.txt
Assigned to: Bert Wijnen
Initiated: December 2004
Old Status: Still in RFC Editor queue.
New Status: Published as RFC 4333.
IRTF Review
Link: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-irtf-01.txt
Assigned to: Leslie Daigle, Aaron Falk
Initiated: December 2004
Old Status: IETF Call for Comments issued Nov 30, concluded Dec 14. Aaron and Sally Floyd have a revision that incorporates comments and is ready for publication, subject to final approval.
New Status: In RFC Editor queue.
IEEE 802 / IETF Relationship
Link: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-ieee-802-rel-05.txt
Assigned to: Loa Andersson, Bernard Aboba
Initiated: June 2005
Old Status: -05 draft sent to RFC Editor.
New Status: In RFC Editor queue.
Mobility Principles (working name)
Assigned to: Pekka Nikander
Initiated: August 2005
Old Status: No progress.
New Status: No progress.
Guidelines for IETF Liaisons
Link: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-liaison-guidelines-01.txt
Assigned to: Loa Andersson
Initiated: October 2005
Old Status: The IAB decided to release Loa’s revised draft as -01. Bernard read the draft for spelling and grammer, Loa needs to incorporate.
New Status: Version -01 published; requested comments from the IESG and current liaisons.
Secure Autoconfiguration
Link: http://www.drizzle.com/~aboba/IAB/draft-iab-config-secure-00.txt
Assigned to: Bernard Aboba
Initiated: October 2005
Old Status: No progress on this one.
New Status: No progress.
Internationalized Domain Names
Link: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-idn-nextsteps-02.txt
Assigned to: Patrik Faltstrom
Initiated: November 2005
Old Status: First draft published.
New Status: -02 published.
Gaps and Missing Pieces in IPv6
Assigned to: David Meyer
Initiated: December 2005
Old Status: Initial draft due 1 Feb 2006.
New Status: Have not started, instead working on TE / shim6 document because it is more relevant to upcoming APRICOT meeting.
IPv6 Multihoming Issues
Assigned to: Bob Hinden
Initiated: December 2005
Old Status: Initial draft due 3 Jan 2006.
New Status: Not much progress yet, hoping to have time next week.
GSE History
Assigned to: Lixia Zhang
Initiated: December 2005
Old Status: Initial draft due 3 Jan 2006.
New Status: Missed the initial deadline but work in progress. New deadline: Feb 17.
These minutes were prepared by Rich Draves. Any comments should be sent to
execd@iab.org. An online copy of these and other minutes is available at: http://www.iab.org/documents/iabmins/