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IAB Teleconference

February 7, 2007

1. Rollcall, Agenda Bash, Approval of Minutes, Administrivia

1.1 Agenda

  1. Rollcall, Agenda Bash, Minutes
  2. Discussion of IESG Confirmation
  3. IETF 68 Planning
  4. Liaison Appointments
  5. ISOC BoT Appointment
  6. Wildcard Document
  7. Review of Specific Actions
  8. Review of Specific Documents
  9. AOB
  10. Executive Session

1.2 Attendance

Bernard Aboba
Leslie Daigle — IAB Chair
Elwyn Davies
Kevin Fall
Olaf Kolkman
David Meyer
Eric Rescorla
Dave Thaler
Lixia Zhang
Dan Romascanu — Liaison from the IESG
Aaron Falk — IRTF Chair
Phil Roberts — IAB Executive Director
Lynn St. Amour — Liaison from ISOC
Brian Carpenter — IETF Chair

Loa Andersson
Kurtis Lindqvist
David Oran
Sandy Ginoza — Liaison from the RFC Editor

Approval of Minutes

Approved minutes of January 24 business meetings.

2. Discussion of IESG Confirmation

See executive session.

3. IETF 68 Planning

The IAB discussed the possibility of internationalization as a topic of the technical plenary on Thursday. Leslie agreed to put together a proposed structure for the meeting and approach possible speakers.

The IAB discussed a possible agenda for the breakfast meetings during IETF.

4. Liaison Appointments

The IAB discussed how to handle the liaison statements sent from the OIF. The OIF wanted to make sure that their liaisons to the IETF are archived beyond their own archives. The IAB agreed to point out that such statements are permanently archived when they are posted to a working group mailing list.

5. ISOC BoT Nominees

The IAB has received several nominations and is still in the process of accepting more.

6. Wildcard Document

The IAB discussed whether to expand the scope of the document beyond the original IAB statement in the SiteFinder response to include the kind of “response mangling” that is becoming popular in recursive resolvers. While this is not strictly a protocol violation (because it involves computation in the server), it does create incoherence in the network, when 2 different hosts get (very) different responses for the same query. Also, it gets in the way of DNSSEC. Agreement to include the expanded scope in the planned document.

7. Review of Specific Actions

Nothing to report.

(See Appendix A)

8. Review of Documents

  • authentication mechanisms

    No update.

  • untangling activeware (Lixia, Oran)

    Postponed until March IETF. Will revisit when we have taken care of things that need to get done before the IAB turnover and will then revisit.

  • link indications (Bernard)

    Leslie to last call within the IAB and then to RFC Editor for publication. Community call for input already done.

  • RFC series and RFC editor (Leslie)

    Last call has ended; there are edits but no huge issues.

  • IAB publications (Leslie)

    Last call has ended; there are edits but no huge issues.

    Also noted: Dave Thaler will join John Klensin as document editor on draft-klensin-rfc-independent in order to help speed completion of that document. He will do a rev to the document per the consensus points Olaf will summarize to the INDEPENDENT mailing list.

  • Internet Transparency (Bernard)

    Lixia and Phil will review the latest version to confirm it’s along the lines the IAB wanted, then Leslie to put out for community input

  • RAW report (DMM)

    Dave Meyer will work on a revision based on feedback; plans to get it to his co-authors by mid-week next week. IAB will try to get this revised and published before IETF 68 in Prague.

    On the topic of following up with an IAB consensus contribution of “what’s happened since Amsterdam,” possibly at IESG’s ROAP BoF in Prague: no consensus of what this might be, let alone whether it could/should be presented in the ROAP bof as an IAB position. A separate topical call with implicated IAB and IESG members will be set up in the next week to discuss it further.

(See Appendix B)

9. AOB


10. Executive Session

The IAB entered executive session to discuss the confirmation of the IESG slate from the nomcom.

Appendix A – Action Items

ISOC BoT Appointment

Assigned to: Phil Roberts
Initiated: September 2006
Goal:Handle the IAB’s appointment to the ISOC Board of Trustees
Old Status: Timeline announcement sent to community.
New Status: Leslie sent out the call for nominations.


Assigned to: Kurtis
Initiated: October 2006
Goal: produce a draft on protocol considerations for anycast suitability
Status: First draft of proposed text available by year-end.
New Status: Text expected RSN.

Addressing RFC Editor Question about submissions from individuals beyond working groups

Assigned to: Leslie
Initiated: October 2006
Goal: Integrate this with the other documents on RFC editor process
Old Status: A page on the IAB website will be created with current progress on all of these documents

Appendix B – Document Status

Design Choices When Expanding DNS

Assigned to: Olaf Kolkman, Patrik Faltstrom
Initiated: June 2004
Old status: waiting on publication of RFC 2929bis to include as a normative reference

A survey of Authentication Mechanisms

Assigned to: Eric Rescorla
Initiated: April 2002
Old Status: Bernard provided a list of 20 open issues. EKR will review and post

Untangling Activeware

Assigned to: Lixia Zhang and Dave Oran
Initiated: April 2004
Old Status: Revisit this in the middle of January.
New Status: Revisit this after IETF.

Architectural Implications of Link Layer Indications

Assigned to: Bernard Aboba
Initiated: June 2004
Old Status: Compiling and incorporating changes now. Would like some feedback from the transport directorate

Link Layers Supporting Multiple Encapsulations

Assigned to: Bernard Aboba
Initiated: April 2006
Old Status: Some last minute comments have been recieved and are being incorporated.

The RFC Series and the RFC Editor

Assigned to: Leslie Daigle
Initiated: April 2006
Old status: Version -02 is out.
New status: Last call complete, a few small edits needed.

Multilink Subnets

Assigned to:Dave Thaler
Initiated:August 2006
Old Status: Determining IAB consensus on this version of the document.

Reflections on Internet Transparency

Assigned to: Bernard Aboba
Initiated: September 2006
Old Status: Requested feedback from the IAB on the right mix of contents for this document

Report on Unwanted Traffic Workshop

Assigned to: Loa Andersson
Initiated: March 2006
Status on 28 Nov 06: -00 document published
New Status: -02 document published

IAB publication

Assignd to: Leslie Diagle
Initiated: December 2006
Status: -00 document published
New Status: Last call complete, a few small edits needed.

RAW report

Assigned to: Dave Meyer
Initiated: October 2006
Old Status: -00 document published.
New status: New revision with changes incorporated should be out by middle of next week.

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