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IAB Minutes 2008-05-28

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Minutes IAB Teleconference 2008-05-28

1. Roll-call, agenda-bash, approval of minutes, administrivia

1.1. Agenda

1.2. Attendance


Stuart Cheshire
Olaf Kolkman (IAB Chair)
Dow Street (IAB Executive Director)
Dave Thaler
Lixia Zhang


Loa Andersson
Gonzalo Camarillo
Aaron Falk (IRTF Chair)
Sandy Ginoza (RFC Editor Liaison)
Russ Housely (IETF Chair)
Gregory Lebovitz
Barry Leiba
Kurtis Lindqvist
Andy Malis
Danny McPherson
Dave Oran
Lynn St. Amour (ISOC Liaison)
Mark Townsley (IESG liaison)

Note: This was a working meeting for two IAB architecture topics. As
a result, not all IAB members participated in the discussion.

2. IP Model Evolution

Dave Thaler led a discussion on the Evolution of the IP Model. The
conversation focused on a set of assumptions about the service
provided by the IP layer to layers above it in the stack. These
assumptions are stated or implied by various IETF documents, but
are not currently recorded in a single reference. Furthermore,
some assumptions have evolved over time and may no longer hold in
the current Internet. The IAB intends to document these
assumptions and assess their relevance to current and future IETF

3. IPv6 / Firewalls

Stuart Cheshire led a discussion on the value proposition of IPv6
and its relation to middle boxes like NATs and firewalls. One of
the main benefits of IPv6 deployment is the opportunity to restore
end-to-end characteristics of the network that have been degraded
over time. However, firewalls deployed according to the current
IPv4 paradigm are likely to endanger this benefit. The group
discussed several overlapping issues in this space and will work
to clarify the scope of a possible IAB document on the topic.