Minutes of the 2012-12-19 IAB Teleconference (Business Meeting)
1. Roll-call, agenda-bash, administrivia, minutes
1.1. Attendance
PRESENT
- Bernard Aboba (IAB Chair)
- Jari Arkko
- Mary Barnes (IAB Executive Director)
- Marc Blanchet
- Ross Callon
- Alissa Cooper
- Spencer Dawkins
- Lars Eggert (IRTF Chair)
- Heather Flanagan (RFC Editor Liaison)
- Mat Ford (ISOC Liaison)
- Joel Halpern
- Russ Housley (IETF Chair)
- David Kessens
- Danny McPherson
- Cindy Morgan (IAB Executive Assistant)
- Jon Peterson
- Robert Sparks (IESG Liaison)
- Dave Thaler
- Hannes Tschofenig
GUESTS
- Eliot Lear
1.2. Administrivia
The board briefly discussed the date for the IETF 86 BOF Coordination Call, which has been scheduled for January 31, 2013.
1.3. Action item review
The internal action item list was reviewed.
1.4. Meeting Minutes
The minutes of the 12 December 2012 business meeting remain under review.
2. World Conference on International Telecommunications (WCIT)
Mary Barnes noted that the DC chapter of the Internet Society hosted a WCIT post-mortem panel discussion [archive: http://livestre.am/4grV1]. Other informative links include:
- Map of signatories: http://www.ipv.sx/wcit/
- Differences between 1988 and 2012 ITRs:
http://linguasynaptica.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/itr-differences.pdf - Analysis of ITR changes:
The board agreed to invite Sally Wentworth to an IAB meeting in January to discuss the outcomes from WCIT.
3. ITU-T Update
Eliot Lear provided the IAB with a brief update of the ITU-T WTSA meeting that took place prior to WCIT. Eliot highlighted several hot topics from the meeting:
- A strategic review committee was chartered to, amongst other things, “identify ways and means to enhance cooperation with standard bodies with a view to minimize conflict of their standards with ITU-T standards.”
- Russia proposed limiting external references, and encouraged incorporation of actual text, where external normative references must receive consensus to be included.
- A new resolution to improve collaboration with other standards organizations was approved; however, the means for improving that collaboration have not yet been decided and will likely be a topic at future TSAG meetings.
- An IPv6 test specification was listed as potential work item in SG11.
- IPv4 address scarcity and monetization.
Eliot requested agenda time at an IAB meeting in January to further discuss more specific recommendations relating to IETF-ITU-T Coordination.
4. Liaison updates
4.1. ISOC Liaison
–Begin ISOC Liaison Report, Mat Ford–
Internet Society Liaison Report to the IAB 18 December 2012 Topics: I. World IPv6 Launch network operator statistics II. Bandwidth management roundtable report published and promoted III. Council of Europe IV. W3C & W3C Privacy Internet Group (PING) V. Human Rights Day 2012 (10 December) VI. INET Qatar, 27 November VII. Global Standards Symposium, 19 November VIII. WTSA, 20-29 November IX. WCIT, 3-14 December I. World IPv6 Launch network operator statistics Updated IPv6 network operator stats have been published (http://www.worldipv6launch.org/measurements/) for November but owing to a change in the way one of the measurers processes their data the number of measureable operators has dropped from the previous month. Operators that remain measureable show increasing levels of IPv6 deployment. II. Bandwidth Management roundtable report published and promoted Building on an earlier briefing panel and associated report into the evolving landscape of Internet bandwidth, the Internet Society convened an invitational roundtable meeting of network operators, technologists, researchers and public policy experts with an interest in broadband regulation and deployment. This report documents the Internet Society Technology Roundtable meeting on the topic of bandwidth management that took place on October 11th and 12th 2012 in London, England: http://www.internetsociety.org/doc/bandwidth-management-internet- society-technology-roundtable-series . III. Council of Europe The Internet Society has been granted observer status in two of the Council’s Committees and participated actively in their work (Strasbourg, 27-30 November 2012). The Internet Society was warmly welcomed in both Committees and the contributions were received very positively by the delegates. In the Steering Committee on Media and Information Society (CDMSI) ISOC was represented by Konstantinos Komaitis and Nicolas Seidler. This meeting provided the opportunity to present the ISOC position in various areas of Internet governance, especially those of digital content and human rights. Both Nicolas and Konstantinos promoted and emphasized the need for the Council to consider Internet technology standards as an additional guide to its mandate to promote governmental standards. In the Consultative Committee of the Convention for the Protection of Individuals with regard to Automatic Processing of Personal Data (Convention No. 108), otherwise known as T-PD, the Internet Society was represented by Robin Wilton and Christine Runnegar. Robin and Christine joined the line-by-line work on the proposed revisions to Convention No. 108, where they helped with both substance and form. Significantly, the T-PD finalized the revisions and agreed to transmit them to the Committee of Ministers. This is an important step forward in the modernization of Convention 108. During the plenary, they also gave an update on some of the Internet Society's recent privacy activities. IV. W3C & W3C Privacy Internet Group (PING) Christine Runnegar participated in the W3C Do Not Track and Beyond workshop (26-27 November 2012). The purpose of the workshop was to discuss the W3C's next steps in the area of tracking protection and Web privacy. Christine and her W3C Privacy Interest Group (PING) co-chair, Tara Whalen, introduced and led a discussion on "How should we chart our future work for privacy, standards and the Web?". This included consideration of: what privacy guidance would be useful and to whom; how to approach privacy reviews of W3C standards; a proposal to develop a paper on fingerprinting, and; a proposal to develop Privacy Specification Assessment criteria for W3C standards. This month's W3C PING teleconference was held on 6 December 2012. Of particular note was the report provided by Trent Adams (now at PayPal) regarding the follow-up he undertook on behalf of PING to help the chairs of the WebAppSec WG address privacy concerns regarding the draft Content Security Policy specification raised by a W3C participant. This is a concrete example of the value that PING provides to the development of W3C standards. PING has also been invited to conduct a privacy review of the Proximity API specification, and has started work on a document to describe fingerprinting and provide guidance to standards developers. V. Human Rights Day 2012 (10 December) The Internet Society celebrated the international Human Rights Day which focused on inclusion and the right to participate in public life. The outputs, coordinated by Nicolas Seidler, included a brand new ISOC webpage dedicated to this day <http://tinyurl.com/ck6hbrw>, a blog post reflecting on the relationship between the Internet and the right to participate <http://tinyurl.com/c2munme>, a press release <http:// tinyurl.com/bvhlqjw>, engagement with Chapters and with our broader community, as well as a Thunderclap campaign <http://tinyurl.com/ cnv3x9f> exceeding expectations (currently 133% of goal supported in less than three days). The Internet Society also released a discussion paper that looks specifically at the fundamental protocols that make the Internet a success, its standards development processes and other key protocols, and how these align with the processes by which human rights standards are developed. Building on the core belief that the Internet's DNA enables fundamental rights such as freedom of expression, this paper draws parallels and differences that aim at fostering a dialogue between human rights activists, policy makers and the Internet technical community. Feedback and discussion on the paper's concepts will contribute to a further revision of the paper in 2013: http://www.internetsociety.org/humanrightsandprotocols VI. INET Qatar, 27 November The first INET organized by ISOC in the Gulf region was held in Doha, on 27 November. The event gathered around 300 participants and was held at Carnegie Melon University Qatar. Constance Bommelaer was responsible for developing the partnership with the university and organized all the sessions. The discussions were well covered by the press; she was interviewed along with Dawit Bekele by the BBC and Doha News. Constance also put together a closed briefing session, on 28 November, on Internet Governance for ICT Qatar managers participating in the ITU WCIT conference. VII. Global Standards Symposium, 19 November Russ Housley, IETF Chair, participated on the Standards Collaboration panel which covered the collaboration between the ITU-T and other fora as well as provided a platform to present the OpenStand principles. Also attending were Leslie Daigle, Sally Wentworth, Karen Mulberry and Andrei Robachevsky. ISOC helped to arrange two bilateral meetings with the Heads of Delegation to WTSA from Japan and Korea that focussed on OpenStand and the IETF’s role in the standards environment. The outcome of each meeting was a very positive understanding of the value that IETF and the Internet technical community provide. VIII. WTSA, 20-29 November Participating at WTSA on the ISOC delegation were Sally Wentworth, Karen Mulberry, Leslie Daigle, Andrei Robachevsky and Eliot Lear. · ITU-T Y.2770, Requirements for Deep Packet Inspection in Next Generation Networks from SG13 was approved along with the two MPLS Recommendations from SG15. The IETF confirmation of the code point assignment was acknowledged in closing Plenary. · Cybersecurity Resolution was revised. Security work will continue in the ITU-T; there are several references to working collaboratively with other groups with expertise. · Numbering Resolutions on misuse, alternative calling and calling line identification have been revised with a focus on VoIP fraud and leveraging misuse to capture settlements from IP networks. In addition both SG2 and SG3 have been called upon to determine the role of a hub and the settlement process. · Spam was discussed extensively and there will be an ITU-T study conducted to capture data on volume, types, and features of spam to help identify routes, and sources to determine actions necessary to stop spam. · Internet Study Group - Resolution 178 on ITU role in organizing the work on technical aspects of telecommunication networks to support the Internet will become a Joint Coordination Activity (JCA) to facilitate work within the ITU-T as well as with other industry fora. However there is also still a possibility that the JCA will become a Working Party of TSAG. · The number of ITU-T Study Groups will remain at 10, with the creation of two new TSAG Advisory Committees one to focus on a T Sector strategic plan and the other will review and expedite new work projects. Several other groups will also continue into the new study period such as M2M, Cloud Computing, and SDN. IX. WCIT, 3-14 December Attending were Lynn St. Amour, Walda Roseman, Markus Kummer, Leslie Daigle, Sally Wentworth, Karen Mulberry, Mat Ford and Sebastian Bellagamba. Michuki Mwangi was also present as a member of the Kenyan delegation. A summary of some of the key issues resulting from the two- week long treaty conference is here: http://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2012/12/friday-december-14th and the press release issued to mark the conclusion of the conference is here: http://www.internetsociety.org/news/internet-society-disappointed-over- fundamental-divides-world-conference-international
–End ISOC Liaison Report–
4.2. IESG Liaison
–Begin IESG Liaison Report, Robert Sparks–
IESG liaison report (covering Nov 28 to Dec 18):
Working Groups:
Creation:
- none
Rechartering:
- Revised charters were approved for
Radius Extensions (radext)
IP Security Maintenance and Extensions (ipsecme)
- A revised charter for Sunsetting IPv4 (sunset4) is in internal
review
Conclusion:
- none
SDO Coordination:
- A response to liaison 1181 ("Liaison to IETF on Diffie-Hellman Group
Repository") was approved and will be issued soon.
- Please also see <http://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/>
–End IESG Liaison Report–
4.3. RFC Editor Liaison
–Begin RFC Editor Liaison Report, Heather Flanagan–
1. RSE Report Update on Active Projects * RFC Format draft-iab-rfcformatreq-00 has been posted and further input received from the public via rfc-interest and from RSOC and IAB members. Another revision is expected by early January. * RFC Style Guide Work on the Style Guide has slowed down while most of the attention is on coming to an informed decision on the RFC Format issue. Efforts around the Style Guide will pick back up in January 2013. Other items of note: * The RSE and the RFC Production Center are having a face to face meeting at the end of January 2013 to review 2012 anddiscuss upcoming plans for 2013, 2014. 2. RFC Production Center New Subpoena request * The RPC is closing the year with a new subpoena request involving several RFCs. New Search page in beta * The new search page has been announced on rfc-interest and several useful comments received. Further updates are being made and will be rolled out in early 2013. http://www.rfc-editor.org/search/rfc_search.php Happy Holidays! * The RPC/Publisher will be on holiday next week, and will be checking the rfc-ed mailbox for urgent issues. SLA and Stats November SLA times: 55% total docs published in fewer than 30 business days we met the SLA at 84% Average Time in RFC Editor-controlled states for docs in queue (as of 19 December): 2.9 weeks 14 docs in EDIT 19 docs in RFC-EDITOR 6 docs in AUTH48
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4.4. IRTF Chair
–Begin IRTF Chair Report, Lars Eggert–
- ANRP 2013 reviews are ongoing. 37 nominations were received. - RG chairs are having issues using the IETF datatracker extensions for chairs. Ticket has been filed in May 2012. No activity since. - Folks are proposing a new RG on network coding. The discussion list is at nwcrg@irtf.org. A wiki is at http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/group/irtf/trac/wiki/nwcrg. I'm somewhat concerned that the text under "NWC Practical Application and Standardization Path" is 5x the length of the text under "NWC Research", but it's a first draft, I guess. - The last document of the P2PRG just went to the RFC Editor, and the RG will close after it has been published. - The ICCRG mailing list has been migrated to irtf.org. It was the last RG list not hosted by us.
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5. IETF/IEEE 802
5.1. IEEE RAC OUI tiers proposal
Russ Housley reported that Glenn Parsons has agreed to submit an internet-draft on the IEEE RAC OUI tiers proposal prior to IETF 86 in order to provide additional context for his presentation in the Technical Plenary.
5.2. IETF/IEEE Coordination Update
Spencer Dawkins requested that an “IAB Call for Adoption” be issued for draft-dawkins-iab-rfc4441rev once the -02 version is posted.
The coordination team plans to hold another conference call in early February, and will meet face-to-face in Orlando on 16 March 2013.
There is ongoing discussion about where the minutes and proceedings of the coordination meetings should be housed long-term (i.e., on the IAB website or on the IESG website). Robert Sparks agreed to ask the IESG their opinion and report back to the IAB.
6. IGRFC
It was previously reported that content from IAB and IETF websites is being loaded in an iframe on IGRFC sites:
- http://igrfc.org/ loads content from http://www.iab.org
- http://igrfc.net/ loads content from http://www.ietf.org/iesg/
- http://igrfc.com/ loads content from http://www.apps.ietf.org/rfc/index.html
Additionally, http://igrfc.net/ loads content from Wikipedia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_standard]).
After discussion in the IESG and the IAB, Russ Housley agreed to send an email to the IETF Trust asking IGRFC to stop loading IAB/IETF content on their sites.
7. IAB Chair Selection Guidelines
After discussion, David Kessens agreed to draft updated text for the IAB Chair selection guidelines. An IAB vote on the guidelines will occur via email.
8. IETF 86 Plenary update
Jon Peterson reported that Henning Schulzrinne, CTO of the FCC, has agreed to speak at the IETF 86 Technical Plenary on “The End of POTS”. A conference call has been scheduled for Thursday, December 20 to discuss the plenary session further. Henning, Hannes, Jon, Bernard and Richard Shockey are expected to attend.
9. January 9 Tech Chat Update
Hannes Tschofenig reported that Jesse Sowell has confirmed his availability for the tech chat on organizational structures for internet operations and security scheduled for 9 January 2013.
10. IP Evolution Program Membership Update
Jari Arkko previously reported that Brian Carpenter will be stepping down from the IP Evolution Program. The Program has a list of several candidates to replace him; they will discuss this further in the Program and come back to the IAB with a proposal.
11. Document Status
11.1. draft-iab-dns-zone-codepoint-pples
The board agreed to send draft-iab-dns-zone-codepoint-pples out for a 4-week IETF-wide Call for Comment.
11.2. draft-iab-anycast-arch-implications
There is currently one open issue on draft-iab-anycast-arch-implications. Danny McPherson agreed to post a revision of the document that addresses that comment, after which time the document will be ready for IETF Call for Comment.
11.3. draft-iab-identifier-comparison
The board agreed to begin IAB Last Call on draft-iab-identifier-comparison.
11.4. Other documents
Hannes Tschofenig reported that both draft-tschofenig-cc-workshop-report and draft-tschofenig-smart-object-architecture require updates before being submitted as IAB documents.
12. Executive Session: NomCom Confirmation / Recusal Process
The IAB discussed the NomCom Confirmation process in an executive session. Due to expected interactions between the various positions, the IAB chose to have IAB members who are nominated for IESG positions recuse themselves from discussions of the slate, while reserving the possibility to re-involve members at a later time.