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Minutes of the 2013-01-30 IAB Teleconference (Business Meeting)

1. Roll-call, agenda-bash, administrivia, minutes

1.1. Attendance

  • Bernard Aboba (IAB Chair)
  • Jari Arkko
  • Mary Barnes (IAB Executive Director)
  • Marc Blanchet
  • Ross Callon
  • Alissa Cooper
  • Spencer Dawkins
  • Lars Eggert (IRTF Chair)
  • Heather Flanagan (RFC Editor Liaison)
  • Joel Halpern
  • Russ Housley (IETF Chair)
  • Danny McPherson
  • Cindy Morgan (IAB Executive Assistant)
  • Jon Peterson
  • Dave Thaler
  • Hannes Tschofenig
  • Mat Ford (ISOC Liaison)
  • David Kessens
  • Robert Sparks (IESG Liaison)

1.2. Administrivia

Cindy Morgan reminded the board that the IETF 86 BOF Coordination Call has been scheduled for 31 January 2013.

1.3. Action item review

The internal action item list was reviewed.

1.4. Meeting Minutes

The minutes of the 16 January 2013 business meeting remain under review pending edits to be made by Cindy Morgan.

2. Liaison updates

2.1. ISOC Liaison

–Begin ISOC Liaison Report, Mat Ford–

Internet Society Liaison Report to the IAB
29 January 2013


I. Routing Resiliency Measurements Workshop Report
II. ITU-T SG2 Numbering, Naming, Addressing and Identification
III. Informal Expert Group (IEG) for the World Telecommunication/ICT Policy Forum (WTPF)
IV. IETF Orlando - Policy Program
V. APEC Electronic Commerce Steering Group
VI. Council of Europe
VII. W3C Privacy Interest Group

I. Routing Resiliency Measurements Workshop Report
The report from the Internet Society's Routing Resiliency Measurements
Workshop has been published and is available here:

II. ITU-T SG2 Numbering, Naming, Addressing and Identification
The Internet Society (Karen Mulberry) is participating in the 22-31
January ITU-T SG2 meeting, which is the first session in the new study
period and under the new study group leadership team assembled by Sherif
Guinena (Egypt) SG2 Chairman. New emphasis is being placed on misuse,
requirements for TSB allocation of resources, mobile identifiers and
defining the future of numbering e.g. M2M and the Internet of Things.

III. Informal Expert Group (IEG) for the World Telecommunication/ICT Policy Forum (WTPF)
The IEG WTPF will be meeting 6-8 February in Geneva for the final
preparatory meeting to review the Secretary General’s Report on this
year’s theme: Issues raised in - Resolution 101: IP-based networks;
Resolution 102: ITU’s role in international policy issues pertaining to
the Internet and management of Internet resources, including domain
names and addresses; and Resolution 133 Roles of administration of
Member States in the management of internationalized domain names.
This Report becomes the basis for discussion along with prepared
Opinions for the WTPF meeting in May. The Opinions contain suggested
scope, and responsibilities for the ITU, Member States and the private
sector and focus on items related to the WTPF theme. Draft Opinions
that have been contributed by IEG members will also be reviewed at this

IV. IETF Orlando - Policy Program
Once again, the Internet Society will host a group of policymakers at
IETF Orlando. For this meeting, we have 9 policymakers confirmed to
attend, primarily from the Latin America / Caribbean region. The focus
of the program will, as always, be on introducing the policymakers to
the IETF mission, activities and processes. We'll also hold some focused
sessions on topics related to routing, interconnection and combatting
spam. These are topics of key interest in the region and are
particularly relevant post-WCIT.

V. APEC Electronic Commerce Steering Group
The Internet Society (Christine Runnegar) is participating in the
Electronic Commerce Steering Group (ECSG) meetings at the APEC Senior
Officials Meeting 1 (SOM1) in Jakarta, Indonesia, commencing on 30
January 2013. This will include the informal and formal meetings of the
Data Privacy and Paperless Trading Sub-Groups. A key area of focus will
be the implementation of the APEC Cross Border Privacy Rules System, its
possible extension to processors, and mapping to other transborder

VI. Council of Europe
The Internet Society (Christine Runnegar) will be participating in the
Bureau of the Consultative Committee of the Convention for the
Protection of Individuals with regard to Automatic Processing of
Personal Data (T-PD), meeting in Strasbourg (5-7 February 2013). At the
plenary last November, we helped the T-PD finalise its proposals on the
modernization of Convention 108. The proposals can be found here:

VII. W3C Privacy Interest Group
The W3C Privacy Interest Group held its monthly call on 24 January 2013.
The topics for this month included privacy reviews of draft
specifications from the Device API WG (Ambient Light Events and
Proximity Events), as well as ongoing work (privacy considerations for
Web standards and guidance on fingerprinting).

–End ISOC Liaison Report–

2.2. IESG Liaison

–Begin IESG Liaison Report, Robert Sparks–

IESG liaison report (covering Dec 19 to Jan 29):

Working Groups:
- Interface to the Routing System (i2rs) was created
- A proposed charter for Web PKI Ops (wpkops) is in Internal Review
- A revised charter (different from December's revision) was
approved for IP Security Maintenance and Extensions (ipsecme)
- A revised charter for Sunsetting IPv4 (sunset4) remains in IESG
evaluation pending addressing concerns from Benoit Claise
- A revised charter for Common Authentication Technology Next
Generation (kitten) is in Internal Review
- Internationalized Resource Identifiers (iri)
- Low Extra Delay Background Transport (ledbat)

SDO Coordination:
- Please see <>

–End IESG Liaison Report–

2.3. RFC Editor Liaison

–Begin RFC Editor Liaison Report, Heather Flanagan–

1. RSE Report

Update on Active Projects
* RFC Format
draft-rfc-format-flanagan-02.txt is in IETF Call for Comments. The
question regarding the UTF-8 requirement is the most urgent of the items
to be addressed. Other comments so far are not significantly impacting
the requirements as documented. The comment period runs through the end
of February.

* RFC Style Guide
Joyce Reynolds has been contracted to review and assist with the
development of the revised Style Guide. Her perspective from her time
as an editor for the Series and her general expertise will be of great
value towards helping understand the ramifications of potential changes.

Other items of note
* RFC Editor face to face meeting
The RSE and RFC Production Center staff had a very productive meeting
at the AMS offices in January. Primary topics included detailed Style
Guide discussion and project prioritization for 2013 and 2014

2. RFC Production Center

New Search page in production
* The new search page has been put in to production on the RFC Editor

SLA and Stats
January 2013 SLA times:
76% total docs published with an RFC Editor time of fewer than 30
business days
(SLA requires a minimum of 67%)

January Stats for the RFC Editor (final)
Submissions: 34
Publications: 38

–End RFC Editor Liaison Report–

2.4. IRTF Chair

–Begin IRTF Chair Report, Lars Eggert–

- ANRP 2013 selections completed. 36 nominations were evaluated, four
were selected:

IETF-86 (Orlando):
***Gonca Gürsun***, Natali Ruchansky, Evimaria Terzi and Mark
Routing State Distance: A Path-based Metric For Network Analysis.
Proc. ACM IMC, Boston, MA, USA, Nov. 2012

IETF-87 (Berlin):
***Te-Yuan Huang***, Nikhil Handigol, Brandon Heller, Nick McKeown
and Ramesh Johari.
Confused, Timid, and Unstable: Picking a Video Streaming Rate is
Proc. ACM IMC, Boston, MA, USA, Nov. 2012

Stefano Vissicchio, ***Laurent Vanbever***, Cristel Pelsser, Luca
Cittadini, Pierre Francois and Olivier Bonaventure.
Improving Network Agility with Seamless BGP Reconfigurations.
IEEE/ACM Transactions on Networking, 2012.

IETF-88 (Vancouver):
***Idilio Drago***, Marco Mellia, Maurizio Munafo, Anna Sperotto,
Ramin Sadre and Aiko Pras.
Inside Dropbox: Understanding Personal Cloud Storage Services.
Proc. ACM IMC, Boston, MA, USA, Nov. 2012

- Folks are proposing a new RG on network coding. The discussion list is
at A wiki is at They asked for
a room for a side meeting in Orlando, which I approved. At the moment,
there is not a lot of activity visible to me, but let's see what
happens at the meeting.

- P2PRG will close after the RFC Editor publishes its final document
(any day now I guess.)

- The clock is running out on the ASRG trying to become more active.
They may close soon, too.

- RG chairs are having issues using the IETF datatracker extensions for
chairs. Ticket has been filed in May 2012. No activity since.

–End IRTF Chair Report–

3. RFC Format Requirements Update

The IAB agreed to send draft-iab-rfcformatreq out to IETF Call for Comment on 1 February 2013, assuming satisfactory resolution of IAB Last Call comments.

4. EU MultiStakeholder Platform Meeting

Olaf Kolkman and Hannes Tschofenig will attend the meeting of the European Multistakeholder Platform for ICT standardization on 7 February 2013.

5. Congestion Control Workshop Report

The IAB adopted draft-tschofenig-cc-workshop-report as an IAB-stream document. Hannes Tschofenig will post draft-iab-cc-workshop-report-00.

6. IAB Chair Selection Guidelines

The IAB approved the IAB Chair Selection Guidelines.

7. ICANN Board of Trustees Job Description

Jari Arkko reported that Thomas Narten will join the IAB for a tech chat on 6 February 2013 and to give an overview of the current status of the liaison relationship with ICANN and discuss the Board of Trustees job description.

8. IETF 86 Technical Plenary Update

Hannes Tschofenig reported that he will send an updated version of Henning Schulzrinne’s presentation on the end of the POTS as soon as he receives it.

Bernard Aboba reported that he has coordinated with Glenn Parsons about the MAC address presentation. The presentation itself should take around 10 minutes, with questions held until the open mike session. Glenn will work with the O&M ADs to secure additional discussion time during the OPS Area WG meeting. Glenn has also promised to submit an Internet Draft prior to the deadline.

9. WCIT Session at IETF 86

Russ Housley reported that the proposal for the IAB-sponsored discussion of WCIT has been posted on the BOF wiki []. The proposal is for a one-hour session on Thursday, 14 March 2013. No support for WebEx or MeetEcho has been requested.

10. IETF 86 Agenda

Mary Barnes asked Program leads to list their meetings on the IETF 86 wiki page, and to let her know about any catering and A/V requirements. Bernard Aboba noted that an OpenStand meeting has been scheduled for Friday afternoon after IETF 86. It was confirmed that no IAB workshops are scheduled adjacent to IETF 86 (before or after), nor are there any other IAB activities in Orlando that will occur prior to Sunday, 10 March.

Lars Eggert will check with the Research Group chairs to see which groups are available to be reviewed by the IAB on Thursday at IETF 86.

11. OpenStand Update

Bernard and Russ reported on the OpenStand telecon that took place on 28 January. Another meeting is scheduled for 15 March. Jari Arkko, Ross Callon, Alissa Cooper and Russ Housley volunteered to work with Bernard and Leslie Daigle to clarify IAB/IETF/ISOC goals for OpenStand prior to that meeting.

12. ISO Liaison Next Steps

Russ Housley reported that ISOC forwarded the liaison statement regarding TIsec to ISO/IEC JTC1 SC6 under the auspices of their Class A liaison relationship.

13. Document Update

13.1. Privacy Considerations for Internet Protocols

The document remains in IETF-wide Call for Comment until 18 February 2013.

13.2. Issues in Identifier Comparison for Security Purposes

The document remains in IETF-wide Call for Comment until 10 February 2013.

13.3. Principles for Unicode Code Point Inclusion in Labels in the DNS

The IAB approved draft-iab-dns-zone-codepoint-pples for publication as an Informational RFC within the IAB stream. Bernard Aboba will send a Request to Publish notice to the RFC Editor.

13.4. The IEEE 802 / IETF Relationship

Spencer Dawkins reported that a new version of the document would be ready for IAB review by the end of the week.

14. Coordination on External Relationships

Bernard Aboba reported that a sub-set of the IAB met to discuss coordination of external relationships. Another conference call will be scheduled to continue the conversation.