Minutes of the 2015-02-11 IAB Teleconference (Business Meeting)
1. Roll-call, agenda-bash, administrivia, minutes
- Jari Arkko (IETF Chair)
- Mary Barnes
- Marc Blanchet
- Alissa Cooper (IESG Liaison)
- Ralph Droms (incoming IAB)
- Mat Ford (ISOC Liaison)
- Joel Halpern
- Ted Hardie
- Joe Hildebrand
- Russ Housley (IAB Chair)
- Xing Li
- Cindy Morgan (IAB Executive Administrative Manager)
- Erik Nordmark
- Robert Sparks (incoming IAB)
- Andrew Sullivan
- Dave Thaler
- Brian Trammell
- Amy Vezza (IETF Secretariat)
- Suzanne Woolf (incoming IAB)
- Lars Eggert (IRTF Chair)
- Heather Flanagan (RFC Editor Liaison)
- Eliot Lear
- Alexey Melnikov (RSOC Chair)
- Michelle Cotton (IANA Liaison)
- Jonne Soininen (ICANN Liaison)
Cindy Morgan noted that the BOF Coordination call for IETF 92 is scheduled for tomorrow; WebEx details were sent out on Monday.
No changes were made to the agenda.
1.3. Action Items
The internal action item list was reviewed.
1.4. Meeting Minutes
The minutes of the 4 February 2015 business meeting were approved.
The minutes of the 21 January 2015 tech chat and business meeting remain under review.
2. Welcome to Incoming IAB Members
The IAB welcomed incoming members Ralph Droms, Robert Sparks, and Suzanne Woolf.
3. Monthly Reports
3.1. ISOC Liaison Report
–Begin ISOC Liaison Report, Mat Ford–
Internet Society Liaison Report to the IAB 11 February 2015 Topics: I. Addressing the challenge of IP spoofing II. Internet Governance survey III. Combating Spam project IV. IXP assistance V. IETF Help Desk at NANOG 63 I. Addressing the challenge of IP spoofing The Internet Society is convening an invitation-only roundtable to assess the potential impact of several factors, such as measurement capabilities, trace back, equipment capabilities, costs, risks and incentives to address the challenge of IP address spoofing. The objective is to identify elements of a comprehensive strategy and a roadmap for tackling this issue. This event will be co-located with a M3AAWG meeting, and will take place on 16 February, at the Palace hotel in San Francisco, US. II. Internet Governance survey The Internet Society is conducting a survey on Internet governance. The objective of this survey is to better understand how we can strengthen mechanisms of the Internet governance ecosystem to better address policy challenges in 2015. It is also designed to help ISOC contribute to the current discussions on the evolution of the ecosystem. Some of the issues include: preparations for WSIS+10; the future of the IGF; the appropriate role of new platforms like the NETmundial Initiative (NMI); and enabling a successful IANA stewardship transition. The IAB's feedback and opinions (individually or collectively) will help us to understand the sentiment of the Internet technical community and will inform ISOC’s approach as it looks to play its role in addressing these issues. The survey is available at: http://www.internetsociety.org/survey-internet-governance III. Combating Spam project The GSMA will be highlighting its partnership with the ISOC Combating Spam Project as part of the Ministerial Capacity Building program at the upcoming Mobile World Congress in Barcelona. IV. IXP assistance Donated equipment has been delivered in Paraguay to help develop a new IXP. Similar equipment has also has been sent to partners in Egypt to upgrade the Cairo Internet Exchange (CAIX) and to Mexico to assist in additional IXP build out. ISOC staff attended an IXP launch in Bangkok along with NSRC, IIJ, Alcatel, Cisco, Google and local Thai Internet community experts and Thai government officials. This event represented the culmination of a two-year collaborative effort involving many colleagues. V. IETF Help Desk at NANOG 63 in San Antonio, 2-4 February The first ever IETF Help Desk was successfully held at NANOG 63 in San Antonio last week. The help desk provided a common, known point for operators attending the NANOG meeting to bring their questions about the IETF. As expected, we received many very basic questions, the most popular being, ‘How do I get started?’. The booth was set up for all three days of the NANOG meeting and was staffed by experienced IETF volunteers most of the time, including during all breaks. Based on this success we will continue with our plan to facilitate hosting of the IETF Help Desk at NOG/NOF meetings around the world. APRICOT 2015 in Fukuoka this March has confirmed and details for additional meetings are in progress. Supporting links: http://www.internetsociety.org/deploy360/operators-and-the-ietf/ http://www.internetsociety.org/deploy360/blog/2015/01/chris-grundemann-nanog-63-talking-bcop-ietf-and-more/
–End ISOC Liaison Report, Mat Ford–
3.2. IESG Liaison Report
–Begin IESG Liaison Report, Alissa Cooper–
Recent new working groups: - 'Archive' Top-Level Media Type (arcmedia) Recently rechartered working groups: - None Current new chartering: - Domain Boundaries (dbound) [Internal review] - Token Binding (tokbind) [Internal review] Current rechartering: - None Pending rechartering: - None Recently closed working groups: - Call Control UUI Service for SIP (cuss) - SIP Overload Control (soc) - Sip ALerting for User Devices (salud) Personnel changes: - Lars Eggert has stepped down as co-chair of RMCAT.
–End IESG Liaison Report, Alissa Cooper–
3.3. IRTF Chair Report
--Begin IRTF Chair Report, Lars Eggert-- - NFVRG chartered - Am still cautiously optimistic that the CFRG has cut the Gordian knot in terms of a recommendation to the TLS WG on curves. - Ongoing discussion with ACM SIGCOMM on a SIGCOMM/IRTF workshop on Internet measurements on the Saturday before the Yokohama IETF (i.e., directly after ACM IMC in Tokyo).
–End IRTF Chair Report, Lars Eggert–
Dave Thaler asked if the Research Group to be reviewed at IETF 92 had been confirmed yet. Cindy Morgan recalled an earlier discussion about that back in January, but not whether there was a resolution. Cindy will follow up with Lars Eggert regarding the IRTF RG review at IETF 92.
3.4. ICANN Liaison Report
–Begin ICANN Liaison Report, Jonne Soininen–
I. Public Comments needing attention (only highlights) ======================================================= (All public comment processes: https://www.icann.org/public-comments#open-public) IDN TLDs - LGR Procedure Implementation - Guidelines for Designing Script-Specific Label Generation Rules (LGR) (https://www.icann.org/public-comments/lgr-guidelines-2015-01-15-en) Comment period closes: 27 Feb 2015 IDN TLDs - LGR Procedure Implementation - Maximal Starting Repertoire Version 2 (https://www.icann.org/public-comments/msr-2014-12-15-en) II. Upcoming topics that could be relevant =========================================== Continuation of the stewardship transition discussion ICANN has now two working groups look at the transition. The first one, Cross Community Working Group (CWG) is chartered to develop an IANA stewardship transition proposal. They have published their first version of the document and it has received quite strong comments to it. There seems to be no consensus on the proposal as it stands now. The working group is re-looking at its proposal. This seems to take time. The CWG has already passed its timeline and it is not clear, which timeline they're able to meet. The second working group is the Cross Community Working Group (CCWG) on Enhancing ICANN Accountability. The WG has started its work much later but seems to be coming along. They have already preliminary results (introducing independent review panels, possibility to recall board member(s), etc). The ICANN board indicated the current direction does look good on this level of granularity. III. (If relevant) upcoming meeting topics of importance ========================================================= The ICANN meeting is ongoing in Singapore. Obviously, a large part of the discussion in the meeting is the IANA stewardship transition and the ICANN accountability. These two topics have gotten much of the focus of the meeting. However, the normal processes of new gTLDs are also progressing. The Technical Experts Group (TEG) met also already during the ICANN meeting. The discussions included a presentation about Internet of Things from ETSI explaining that IoT may have an impact on names as well. In the discussion IETF's role in the IoT space was also brought up by the IETF TEG members. Another interesting topic was a presentation asking if the Internet is losing its distributed nature through a series of independent technical decisions including the WEIRDs and the whois work. This may be a topic that IAB would like to discuss among themselves.
–End ICANN Liaison Report, Jonne Soininen–
The IAB discussed the question of whether the Internet is losing its distributed nature. Suzanne Woolf observed that people are not thinking about the cumulative effects of concentrating things in fewer places. Jonne Soininen agreed, noting that there is an impact on the Internet architecture.
Russ Housley asked whether it was a privacy issue. Ted Hardie replied that it could be, but that it depends on the structure of the data being held.
Ted Hardie took an action item to work with Alissa Cooper and Andrew Sullivan to reach out to Joe Hall at CDT and determine if the IAB should comment on the topic as it relates to the ongoing WHOIS work.
3.5. IANA Liaison Report
–Begin IANA Liaison Report, Michelle Cotton–
IANA Liaison Report – 11 February 2015 2014 SLA Deliverables Update: - ICANN met 99% of processing goal times for the December 2014 monthly statistics, exceeding the SLA goal to meet 90% of processing goal times. These times include the steps that the IANA Department has control over and not time it is waiting on requesters, document authors or other experts. - ICANN is still on target for delivering the report to the IPROC by March 30, 2015. - ICANN has submitted a revised version of the Supplemental Agreement for 2015 for review by the IPROC. Other News: - The request for the addition of as112.arpa is complete.
–End IANA Liaison Report, Michelle Cotton–
Russ Housley noted that the IAOC will do the first review of the IANA SLA before running it by the IAB to mark sure the IAB has no concerns in its oversight role.
3.6. RFC Editor Liaison Report
–Begin RFC Editor Liaison Report, Heather Flanagan–
RSE Update: RFC Format Update The SoWs for the necessary tools are out for community comment, and while no official comments have been received, Paul Hoffman reports that people are asking questions and offering opinions on the xml2rfc vocabulary that suggest people are reading the SoWs. There have also been quite an active set of discussions, led by Sean Leonard, on rfc-interest. So, the community is still engaged and offering feedback, which is good. One area of concern in the project, however, is the HTML draft. Work on that has stalled due to competing time commitments, and finding a skilled HTML person to ensure that we have an HTML mapping for each xml2rfc v3 vocabulary element is proving difficult. The search for assistance will continue, but if no one is found who is ready, willing, and able, the next HTML draft update will be postponed until after IETF 92. Errata System Design Team During IETF 91, several members of the IESG offered to be a part of an errata system design team to discuss how to make errata both more useful to the implementer and easier to manage. The membership list was expanded and now includes Joel Jaeggli, Stephen Farrell, Barry Leiba, Pete Resnick, Ted Lemon, Mark Nottingham, Nevil Brownlee, Robert Sparks, Sandy Ginoza, and Heather Flanagan. A wiki space is in place to record the goals and possible models for a revised system: <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rse/wiki/doku.php?id=erratasystem:start>. Discussions are still in early stages, and I'm providing regular reports to the Tools Team since it is not unlikely that this will result (eventually) in a modification of the existing system and possibly glue code for additional pieces (e.g., there seems to be strong support to have future technical errata be reported into a modding system so the community can decide what is important). This work is interesting but will not be prioritized above the format work. DOI project The DOI project was awarded last month to Standcore, with John Levine taking lead on the development effort. He has a copy of the RFC Editor database and the scripts used by the RPC during their publication process and has started reviewing that information to see exactly what is needed to make DOI assignment and registration an automated part of the publication process. Regarding the administrative part of this project, our application with CrossRef for a DOI prefix has been accepted and our DOI prefix has been assigned: 10.17487. This project is scheduled to complete in April 2015. RFC Editor website redesign AMS was awarded the RFC Editor website redesign project last month. The developer on the project has started her work with updates to the queue stats page, streamlining its functionality while also getting it set for the new WordPress framework. This project is scheduled to complete in September 2015. RPC Update: Stats - https://www.rfc-editor.org/reports The SLA was met in January 2015. From the reports page: "*January 2015:* The RFC Editor is experiencing the typical surge associated with the March IETF meeting (IESG changeover); the number of submissions has increased significantly this month. In addition, sizable clusters were released into the EDIT queue, e.g., weirds (C240) <http://www.rfc-editor.org/cluster_info.php?cid=C240>, which includes 5 documents, and jose/oauth (C241) <http://www.rfc-editor.org/cluster_info.php?cid=C241>, which includes 9 documents. "
–End RFC Editor Liaison Report, Heather Flanagan–
4. IAB Agenda at IETF 92
Russ Housley briefly ran through the IAB schedule for IETF 92.
5. Tech Plenary at IETF 92
The IAB briefly discussed the Technical Plenary for IETF 92. The topic will be smart objects, and the speakers will be Dave Thaler and Hannes Tschofenig.
Dave Thaler asked how much of the plenary time will be devoted to the technical topic. Russ Housley noted that in addition to the regular reporting, there will be the presentation of plaques to the outgoing IAB members, as well as brief updates regarding the recent IAB workshop on Stack Evolution in a Middlebox Internet (SEMI) and the IAB statement on Identifiers and Unicode 7.0.0. Russ will put together a draft agenda for the entire technical plenary and send it out to the IAB for review.
6. Internationalization Statement
The IAB agreed to revise the existing IAB Statement on Identifiers and Unicode 7.0.0 to remove the bulleted list of character sequences recommended for exclusion in any new identifiers, as the list is not complete and may be misleading. Cindy Morgan will update the statement accordingly and archive the original version.
The IAB discussed Andrew Sullivan’s proposed response to a comment received on the statement; the IAB agreed that unless anyone objects in the next day, Russ Housley will send that reply on behalf of the IAB.
7. Liaison Compensation Statement
The IAB discussed the proposed statement on Liaison compensation; the discussion will continue via email.
Mary Barnes noted that the IAB website should include a page that describes the IAB’s role in making various appointments, including those of liaison managers. Cindy Morgan will add this to the IAB’s internal action item list.
8. Joint IAB-RSSAC Statement on Liaison
The IAB approved the joint IAB-RSSAC statement on the IAB liaison to ICANN Root Server System Advisory Council (RSSAC). Marc Blanchet will send the final text (including the names of both RSSAC co-chairs) to Cindy Morgan for posting on the website.
9. NIST Revised Cryptographic Standards and Guidelines Development Process
Ted Hardie reviewed the revised Cryptographic Standards and Guidelines Development Process for the IAB, and reported that the IAB’s previous comments (see <http://www.iab.org/wp-content/IAB-uploads/2014/04/IAB- NIST7977-20140407.pdf>) have mostly been addressed. Bearing that in mind, the IAB decided that they had no further comments to make.
10. IAB Programs Overview
IAB Program Leads each gave a brief overview of their Programs in order to help the incoming IAB members decide where they would like to focus their energies.
As part of this review, the IAB noted that the Internationalization Program was listed on the website as being mostly dormant last spring; however, with the recent developments with regards to Unicode, the Program is no longer dormant. Cindy Morgan will work with Andrew Sullivan to propose updated text for the Internationalization Program web page.
Joel Halpern suggested that the IAB may be able to fold the ITU-T Coordination Program back into the Liaison Oversight Program, but further discussion was deferred until Eliot Lear could participate in the discussion.
Andrew Sullivan noted that the Name Resolution Program is still in its infancy, and does not yet have any members. Andrew will meet with Ralph Droms and Joe Hildebrand before or during IETF 92 to discuss the Program’s next steps.
11. IAB Chair Selection Process
Eliot Lear will serve as the Selection Committee Chair for the 2015-2016 IAB Chair selection process.
The IAB agreed to have a two-week nomination period.
12. Executive Session: ISOC Board of Trustees Appointments
Russ Housley recused himself from the discussion and left the teleconference. The IAB discussed the IAB appointments to the ISOC Board of Trustees in an executive session.
Cindy Morgan will send an email to the voting list to solicit volunteers to conduct candidate interviews.
12. Executive Session: Third Routing AD
Joel Halpern recused himself from the discussion and left the teleconference. In accordance with RFC 2850, Jari Arkko also departed, as did the incoming IAB members. Russ Housley returned to the teleconference.
The IAB discussed the NomCom report on the third Routing Area Director in an executive session.