Minutes of the 2017-10-18 IAB Teleconference (Tech Chat & Business Meeting)
1. Roll-call, agenda-bash, administrivia, minutes
1.1. Attendance
Present:
- Jari Arkko
- Alissa Cooper
- Michelle Cotton (IANA Liaison)
- Heather Flanagan (RFC Editor Liaison)
- Mat Ford (ISOC Liaison)
- Ted Hardie (IAB Chair)
- Joe Hildebrand
- Lee Howard
- Allison Mankin (IRTF Chair)
- Gabriel Montenegro
- Kathleen Moriarty (IESG Liaison)
- Cindy Morgan (IAB Executive Administrative Manager)
- Erik Nordmark
- Mark Nottingham
- Jeff Tantsura
- Martin Thomson
- Brian Trammell
- Amy Vezza
- Suzanne Woolf
Regrets:
- Robert Sparks
Guests
- Jonathan Brewer
- Monique Morrow
1.2. Administrivia
Cindy Morgan reminded the IAB that there are outstanding e-ballots to approve the minutes from the September IAB meetings.
An item on 3GPP and 5G was added to the agenda.
2. Tech Chat: Quo Vadis Our Internet?
Monique Morrow joined the IAB to give a preview of her presentation for the IETF 100 technical plenary.
As a methodology, one does not sit and ruminate on what the future will look like but rather observe patterns with 21st century systems anthropologist lens, and ask the questions of “what if,” “why not,” and “how.” We are confronted by parallel worlds, that which we reside today and that which is developing in front of us.
Whilst technology has been an enabler towards the development of the Internet, there are patterns that may challenge its very existence, such as “control by a few;” a growing trust deficit; the enhanced brain; humans as software; the tension between weapons of mass empowerment and those of mass destruction. With all the human enhancing tools at our disposal including personalized home robots, and the ability to heal ourselves, we can individually detect and respond to a threat. On the other hand, we could be the miscreant actors ourselves. Could we imagine a “stalemate” as the risks are so high towards community-driven mass destruction? Our brain will be the interface to everything. We will no longer type or swipe devices but rather command them with our brain. One could actually think of “reading” the other person’s thoughts where telepathic interactions are used daily. The “creepy” factor will set in very quickly and will require a “do not share” capability controlled by the mind. Ubiquitous telepathy and recording will challenge the expectations of privacy. On the other hand, we will learn languages and absorb knowledge in minutes.
The key message is that we need to assure that what we develop and how we deploy technology results in value to individuals and to our overall society. The IETF certainly has the potential to integrate ethics and governance now, in the future and for the sake of our humanity.
3. Tech Chat: The Future is Up in the Sky
Jonathan Brewer joined the IAB for a tech chat on satellite broadband.
As population density thins out, satellite becomes the least costly and complex method of delivering broadband. However, latency matters a lot in broadband. Users will notice latency if it is slower than 320 ms.
There are three orbital levels: low earth, medium earth, and
geostationary. Most satellite service currently in use today use
geostationary orbits.
Geostationary Earth Orbit:
- In use since 1965
- 400+ ms latency
- 3 satellites needed
- +/- 82° global coverage
- Stationary receiver dishes
Medium Earth Orbit:
- In use since 2014
- Around 120 ms latency
- 8+ satellites needed
- +/- 45° global coverage
- Receivers must track
Low Earth Orbit:
- The next Space Race
- Imperceptible latency
- 10s of satellites needed
- Global coverage
- Today only narrow-band
Waves in the air can travel 40% faster than waves in fiber optic cable, but things in the air (such as rain) can attenuate waves. Different frequencies have different properties; bigger waves behave differently from smaller ones.
Mark Nottingham asked if there are legal or governance issues with this style of Internet. Jonathan Brewer replied that there are some governments (e.g. India) that refuse to allow satellite services, so they may be geo-restricted.
Jonathan Brewer noted that one interesting thing to consider is how the protocols will evolve when broadband services with multiple latencies are working together.
4. Monthly Reports
4.1. ISOC Liaison Report
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Internet Society Liaison Report to the IAB 13 October 2017 Topics: I. Policy papers Promoting the African Internet Economy Spectrum Approaches for Community Networks II. Upcoming submissions and applications IGF Multi-stakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) 2018 Selection Process NDSS Workshops Announced III. Engagements Armenian & Ukrainian IGFs The Women's Forum for the Economy and Society, Global Meeting 2017 ITU World Telecommunication Development Conference International Institute of Communications Annual Conference 2017 EPC Trans-Atlactic Policy Dialogue RIPE75 Euro-IX Forum Innovation Africa 2017 Roundtable in collaboration with Chatham House on Encryption and Lawful Access APT Cybersecurity Forum (CSF) UN Expert Group Meeting on Small Island Developing States (SIDS) Digital Accessibility Workshop ICANN 60 IV. Highlights of recent activities InterCommunity 2017 IXP Assistance Georgian Community Network Launch Digital Citizen Summit Community Networks Exchange Working Group on Enhanced Cooperation Forum on Internet Freedom in Africa Namibia inaugural national IGF I. Policy papers Promoting the African Internet Economy: This paper focuses on developing an Internet economy in Africa by bringing all companies, services and governments online. The paper is currently out for review with ISOC's community and expected to be launched during the African Union Ministerial meeting in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia. Spectrum Approaches for Community Networks: This newly released policy brief focuses on spectrum approaches specific to community networks and provides recommendations to community networks, policy-makers and regulators, and operators. The paper was launched in conjunction with the ITU WTDC-17. See https://www.internetsociety.org/policybriefs/ spectrum/ and https://www.internetsociety.org/news/press-releases/ 2017/61665/ II. Upcoming submissions and applications IGF Multi-stakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) 2018 Selection Process: The IGF Secretariat has published the process for nominations to the 2018 MAG [https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/mag-2018-renewal], with the goal to have the new appointments announced before the IGF meeting in December of this year. Information about individual nominations, or nominations via organized processes from the various stakeholder groups processes, will be available soon. NDSS Workshops Announced: Four workshops have been selected to be co- located with NDSS 2018. These four workshops are: — Binary Analysis Research (BAR) — Decentralized IoT Security and Standards (DISS) — DNS Privacy: Increasing Usability and Decreasing Traceability (DNSPRIV) — Usable Security (USEC) The DISS and DNSPRIV workshops both have active IETF community participation. The CFPs for all four workshops are now available on the new NDSS website: https://www.ndss-symposium.org/ III. Engagements Armenian & Ukrainian IGFs: Internet Society is supporting the Armenian and Ukrainian IGF meetings and the European Regional Bureau will contribute to discussions. For more information: (Armenia) http://armigf.am/en/home/#schedule (Ukraine) http://igf-ua.org The Women's Forum for the Economy and Society, Global Meeting 2017: This annual meeting is a platform for discussions of major social and economic issues from women's perspectives. ISOC has been invited to speak about emerging security challenges. For more information: http://www.womens-forum.com/meetings/global-meeting-2017 ITU World Telecommunication Development Conference: The Internet Society will be participating in the 7th ITU WTDC in Buenos Aires, Argentina. The WTDC sets the work plan for the development sector for the next 4 years. ISOC's main objectives are to encourage policymakers to consider new policies for connectivity such as community networks to address the digital divide. Additionally, we want to invite policymakers to use ISOC's framework for an open and trusted Internet as a guide for addressing some of the more difficult challenges in building trust in an open environment such as the Internet. During the conference we will launch our Spectrum, and Landlocked Developing Country (LLDCs) papers and promote various resources including the 2017 Global Internet Report. Furthermore, we will share stories of everyday heroes that are shaping the future Internet as we advance our Shape Tomorrow Campaign. ISOC’s Background Paper on WTDC 2017: https://www.internetsociety.org/ resources/doc/2017/wtdc-2017-background-paper/ ISOC’s WTDC 2017 Page: https://www.internetsociety.org/events/wtdc-2017/ ISOC’s official contribution to WTDC: https://www.itu.int/md/D14-WTDC17- C-0048/en International Institute of Communications Annual Conference 2017, Brussels The IIC's annual conference addresses trends in converged communications: opportunities and realities of cross-border, cross- sector, cross-cultural, digital ecosystems. ISOC will speak in a panel session on cyber security and the European Regional Bureau will attend the event. For more information: https://www.iicom.org/events/category/ annual-conference-2017-brussels EPC Trans-Atlactic Policy Dialogue, Brussels European Policy Centre will organise a panel discussion named "Europe's Response to Growing Cybersecurity Threats - Lessons from the US". ISOC will speak in this panel session and the European Regional Bureau will attend. For more information: http://www.epc.eu/calendar.php RIPE75, Dubai ISOC will participate in the activities of the RIPE 75 meeting and are organising an informal BoF, "Measuring the health of the routing system (and its players)”. The objective of this meeting is to explore metrics that could accurately reflect the security posture of a network and the routing system as a whole in quantitative terms, and to explore whether existing or new data sources/measurements can support such metrics. The Internet Society will also be co-organizing the Women in Tech lunch featuring speakers from the region. Euro-IX Forum The MANRS IXP partnership program will be discussed at the upcoming EURO-IX Forum. This is the latest stop for the "roadshow" that already included AfPIF and LAC-IX intended to shape a set of actions that IXPs will be required to take in order to join the MANRS initiative. Innovation Africa 2017, Mozambique Internet Society will be represented at Innovation Africa 2017. This event is the continent's largest gathering of Ministers and senior officials responsible for education, science & technology, tertiary, vocational & professional education and ICT. More than 30 African Ministers have confirmed attendance to this years' event. ISOC will present on a panel titled: Developing National Research & Education Networks together with Ministers from Burundi, Cameroon, Mozambique and Brazil. http://innovation-africa.com/2017/ Roundtable in collaboration with Chatham House on Encryption and Lawful Access: ISOC together with Chatham House is organizing a roundtable on encryption and lawful access. ISOC will participate in the discussions, which will explore the benefits of encryption, the challenges that it poses to law enforcement, and try to reconcile these two aspects. For more information: https://www.chathamhouse.org/event/encryption-and- lawful-access APT Cybersecurity Forum (CSF), Dhaka, Bangladesh ISOC’s Asia-Pacific Bureau is conducting a workshop on ethical data handling and privacy at the 8th CSF organised by the Asia-Pacific Telecommunity. ISOC will also participate in a high-level roundtable on security. UN Expert Group Meeting on Small Island Developing States (SIDS), Port Vila, Vanuatu ISOC’s Asia-Pacific Bureau is participating in an expert group meeting on 'Resilient urban development in SIDS: harnessing opportunities for enhanced connectivity' to review the status of connectivity and identify strategies for ICT development in the small island developing states, organised by the UN. Digital Accessibility Workshop, Jakarta, Indonesia ISOC’s Asia-Pacific Bureau is holding a one-day workshop on Digital Accessibility, engaging with persons with disability to help build awareness among policymakers, developers and other stakeholders on how to better integrate and enable accessibility into digital platforms. The event will co-locate with IGF Indonesia. ICANN 60, Abu Dhabi Internet Society chapter members attending ICANN 60 will meet during a networking event organized by ISOC. During this event, the "Digital Opportunities for the Middle East" booklet will be launched. This booklet is the first attempt to bring forth the Middle Eastern point of view to the digital challenges facing the region. The booklet is the product of a collaborative effort between many stakeholders, technical experts, and Internet Society Chapter members from the region. IV. Highlights of Recent Activities InterCommunity 2017: In celebration of our 25th anniversary, we took time to look back, to celebrate with our community and to look ahead to the future. For more information about the event, please visit: https://www.internetsociety.org/intercommunity/2017/ IXP Assistance: ISOC held joint IXP Training with APNIC in Papua New Guinea. Papua New Guinea launched an IXP in Port Moresby in May after two years of training and work with ISOC and APNIC. Recent training activities focused on advanced BGP and routing activities. Georgian Community Network Launch: ISOC, working with the Georgian government and other local stakeholders, launched a community network in the Tusheti region of Georgia in early September. This work relates to ISOC’s access activities to scale community network development, deployment, and sustainability. Digital Citizen Summit: ISOC’s Asia-Pacific Bureau participated in this summit, organised by the Digital Empowerment Foundation in Delhi, India, to discuss access, privacy, freedom of expression and digital literacy concerns. ISOC also presented as part of the opening plenary. Community Networks Exchange (CNX): ISOC’s Asia-Pacific Bureau, along with APC and the Digital Empowerment Foundation, co-organised the first CNX in Asia-Pacific in Delhi, India, as a platform where community network providers can share learnings and experiences. More details can be found at http://cnxapac.org/ Working Group on Enhanced Cooperation: ISOC participated in the group's fourth meeting which discussed additional proposals from members of the group. For more information about the meeting, including the contributions, please visit the CSTD website here: http://unctad.org/en/Pages/CSTD/WGEC-2016-to-2018.aspx Forum on Internet Freedom in Africa (FIFA): Internet Society supported the FIFA event jointly organised by CIPESA and APC. ISOC presented on a panel titled: "Business of Big Data – exploring ethics, consent, data privacy and policy". ISOC also sponsored 4 fellows from LAC to the event. More details can be found on this website: https://cipesa.org/fifafrica/fifafrica-2017 Namibia inaugural national IGF: Namibia held its inaugural Internet Governance forum (NamIGF) which coincided with the 2017 commemoration of the International Day for Universal Access to Information. The forum opened by Namibia's Minister of Information, Tjekero Tweya was co-hosted by the newly formed ISOC Namibia Chapter: http://namibia.intgovforum.org/
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4.2. IANA Liaison Report
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IANA Services Liaison Report – 18 October 2017 SLA Deliverables Update: - ICANN met 100% of processing goal times for the August 2017 and September 2017 monthly statistics reports, exceeding the SLA goal to meet 90% of processing goal times. These times include the steps that ICANN has control over and not time it is waiting on requesters, document authors or other experts. - The draft 2018 SLA is currently being reviewed and revised. Other News: - ICANN continues the interview process candidates for the PTI President position. - The public comment period for the Draft PTI and IANA FY19 Operating Plans and Budgets is open. https://www.icann.org/public-comments/draft-pti-iana-fy19-2017-10-09-en IANA Services Operator and IETF Leadership Meeting Minutes: None to report
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4.3. RFC Editor Liaison Report
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RFC Series Editor Update - Format The IETF is discussing, at length, the recent non-ASCII publications, RFCs 8187, 8264, 8265, and 8266. In particular, the community is debating the addition of a BOM at the start of the .txt file. To summarize the issue, see Unicode Consortium's FAQ (http://www.unicode.org/faq/utf_bom.html#bom1) on the matter: "Can a UTF-8 data stream contain the BOM character (in UTF-8 form)? If yes, then can I still assume the remaining UTF-8 bytes are in big-endian order? A: Yes, UTF-8 can contain a BOM. However, it makes no difference as to the endianness of the byte stream. UTF-8 always has the same byte order. An initial BOM is only used as a signature — an indication that an otherwise unmarked text file is in UTF-8. Note that some recipients of UTF-8 encoded data do not expect a BOM. Where UTF-8 is used transparently in 8-bit environments, the use of a BOM will interfere with any protocol or file format that expects specific ASCII characters at the beginning, such as the use of "#!" of at the beginning of Unix shell scripts." Some people are arguing that a BOM should _only_ be used when absolutely necessary, and that all things that would read or display a text document should assume that text documents are UTF-8 encoded and therefore would never actually require a BOM (thus making it not necessary). Anything else is considered by these people to be an inappropriate use of a BOM. However, on the other hand, we have existence proof (research done by Dave Thaler and posted by the RSE to the IETF list on September 19, 2017) that not all document readers (in particular some Microsoft tools) are assuming UTF-8 for plain-text files, and are not displaying the non-ASCII characters unless there is a BOM at the start of the file, acting as that signature described above to give the tools the hint they need to display everything correctly. To add a final complication into the mix, a few community members have pointed out that protocols such as FTP rely on the file extension to suggest what encoding is being used, and as such, assume ASCII-only when a .txt extension is used, regardless of the addition of the BOM. At this time, no additional RFCs will be published with non-ASCII characters, giving the community time to debate this further. Until new information is offered, however, the RFC Editor will continue to use the BOM when we start publishing documents with non-ASCII characters again in the future (after the format tools are complete). Timeline: For an update on the planning timeline for the tools aspect of this project, see: https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/FormatToolsPlan Note that the tools noted with an asterix are expected to be significantly delayed. - Style Guide An updated draft was posted for the Style Guide (draft-flanagan-7322bis-02). The goal is to move ahead with the publication process when the content of the draft and the abilities of the tools used by the RPC and the community align. (For example, what the Style Guide requires for reference formats for multi-document sub-series cannot be supported by xml2rfc v2.) RPC Update - SLA See: https://www.rfc-editor.org/report-summary/ The RPC currently is trending to be in Tier1 for Q3. The Tier structure is a measure of the incoming workload. The expected turnaround time is adjusted based on the incoming workload. The streams have expressed they are content with the current rate of production. From the Reports page notes: Q3 2017: The RPC continues to work on their systems and tools in preparation for the transition to host multiple file formats. The editors continued id2xml testing and have started to use id2xml to generate XML files when an author-submitted source file is not available. In addition, the RPC tested how the existing system and tools handle UTF-8 and made updates where possible. The editors completed testing and worked with authors of selected documents through the AUTH48 process. The first RFCs that contain UTF-8 characters were published as follows: RFC 8187: Indicating Character Encoding and Language for HTTP Header Field Parameters RFC 8264: PRECIS Framework: Preparation, Enforcement, and Comparison of Internationalized Strings in Application Protocols RFC 8265: Preparation, Enforcement, and Comparison of Internationalized Strings Representing Usernames and Passwords RFC 8266: Preparation, Enforcement, and Comparison of Internationalized Strings Representing Nicknames The number of pages submitted and moved to EDIT has declined since Q1 2017 (see Figure 2). The decrease in submissions allowed the editors more time to focus on testing and to prepare for the transition to new format-related tools. The RFC Editor responded to two legal requests.
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5. BOF Coverage at IETF 100
The IAB discussed coverage for BOFs and proposed RGs at IETF 100, noting that the final agenda has not yet been published.
6. IAB Agenda at IETF 100
The IAB reviewed and discussed their agenda for IETF 100. Cindy Morgan will update the wiki and calendar based on the discussions.
The IAB plans to review the Measurement and Analysis for Protocols Research Group (MAPRG) on Thursday morning in Singapore.
7. RFC Series Editor
The IAB confirmed the RSOC’s recommendation for the RFC Series Editor (RSE) via e-vote. Ted Hardie will follow up with the IAOC.
8. ISE Announcement
Ted Hardie will announce that the IAB has appointed Adrian Farrel as the Independent Submission Editor (ISE) as of 15 February 2018.
9. 3GPP and 5G
Jari Arkko reported that there was a call on 13 October between the
3GPP-IETF liaisons, 3GPP leadership, and IETF experts on HTTP/2 usage
for 3GPP’s new Service Based Architecture (SBA).
The purpose of the call was to inform the experts on 3GPP’s efforts in designing the SBA, to get advice regarding general approaches to requirements that are likely to come up, and get an understanding of what the process is from the IETF side on any extensions, should there be need for some. 3GPP will use HTTP2 for their new 5G core network signaling.
Jari Arkko noted that they are trying to set up a similar call with people involved in using EAP in 5G networks.