Minutes of the 2018-09-12 IAB Teleconference (Business Meeting)
1. Roll-call, agenda-bash, administrivia, minutes
- Jari Arkko
- Deborah Brungard (IESG Liaison)
- Alissa Cooper (IETF Chair)
- Michelle Cotton (IANA Liaison)
- Heather Flanagan (RFC Editor Liaison)
- Ted Hardie (IAB Chair)
- Christian Huitema
- Gabriel Montenegro
- Cindy Morgan (IAB Executive Administrative Manager)
- Erik Nordmark
- Melinda Shore
- Jeff Tantsura
- Martin Thomson
- Brian Trammell
- Suzanne Woolf
- Amy Vezza (Secretariat)
- Allison Mankin (IRTF Chair)
- Mark Nottingham
- Karen O’Donoghue (ISOC Liaison)
- Robert Sparks
Cindy Morgan noted that the BOF Coordination call for IETF 103 has been scheduled and added to the IAB calendar.
The agenda item on the ESCAPE workshop was deferred because Mark Nottingham was unable to join the meeting.
Ted Hardie added agenda items on the upcoming joint IETF-IEEE 802 leadership meeting and the IDNA Parameter Registry update.
1.3. Meeting Minutes
The following meeting minutes were approved:
- 2018-08-01 business meeting
- 2018-08-08 business meeting; Ted Hardie abstained.
- 2018-08-22 business meeting
- 2018-09-05 business meeting
1.4. Action Item Review
The internal action item list was reviewed.
2. Monthly Reports
2.1. ISOC Liaison Report
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Internet Society Liaison Report to the IAB 9 September 2018 I. Upcoming Papers SOC - NPA Special Issue: Internet Connectivity in Indigenous and Northern Communities In the autumn of 2018, Northern Public Affairs, in collaboration with ISOC will be releasing a special issue focusing on emerging developments in community networks among Indigenous peoples in North America. The magazine will include articles that touch on issues such as: deployment, first mile connectivity, tele-health and language preservation. The Issue will be released in conjunction with the Indigenous Connectivity Summit that will take place 11-12 October in Inuvik, Northwest Territories, Canada. Policy Brief on Routing Security A policy brief on routing security will be released for community preview at the end of August. The policy brief will provide policymakers with an overview of challenges related to routing security and key considerations around the routing ecosystem. It also includes recommendations to consider when approaching issues related to routing security. Innovations in Spectrum Management Paper - Community Review, 10-24 August This draft policy brief highlights the importance of access to and use of spectrum by community networks to advance more connectivity and connect the unconnected. It highlights current challenges and innovations that some countries are making, and provides recommendations and issues for CNs, policy-makers and regulators, and communities to consider. We would like to invite you to preview the brief, and to provide us with your feedback (please to bear in mind that this paper is limited only to community networks and is not a paper on spectrum management in general). You can view the PDF version at: isoc.box.com/ v/public-preview . We welcome your comments that can be sent to Jane Coffin (firstname.lastname@example.org) and Konstantinos Komaitis (email@example.com). II. Recent Activities and Engagements Asia-Pacific Regional IGF, 13-17 August, Port Vila, Vanuatu. The APAC Bureau is organising workshops on Community Networks and Digital Accessibility, and hosting the closing ceremony at this year's APrIGF. Raj Singh, Naveed Haq and Raul Echeberria will be speaking at various sessions. Experts Session on Encryption, Parliament House, 20 August, Canberra, Australia On 20 August, ISOC and Internet Australia will hold the Experts Session on Encryption at Parliament House in Canberra, Australia. The event will feature an interactive in-depth dialogue with experts on encryption and digital security, highlighting issues concerning encryption and law enforcement access. A live stream of the event will be available here: US. FTC Hearings On Competition and Consumer Protection in the 21st Century The United States Federal Trade Commission (FTC) announced in June that it would host a series of hearings on "competition and consumer protection in the 21st century." The North America Bureau will submit comments by their August 20 deadline. Multi-stakeholder dialogue on the future of Internet Governance, 20 August 2018, OAS Headquarter. Washington, DC, United States of America. ISOC, together with LACNIC and CITEL, is organizing a pre-event for a multistakholder dialogue with regulators, civil society, private sector and technical community attending the upcoming PP-18 preparatory meetings. ISOC staff will attend the event. Draft agenda available at: https://www.citel.oas.org/en/SiteAssets/About-Citel/Next-Meetings/PCC.I/ CCPI-2018-33-4635_i.pdf 33 Meeting of PCC1 and the Conference Preparatory Working Group of COM/ CITEL (GTPC) - 20 to 24 August 2018. OAS Headquarter. Washington, DC In the run up for ITU Plenipotentiary meeting in Dubai this year, the Americas Region is meeting to identify common proposals to be submitted as InterAmerican Proposals. ISOC staff will be attending the meeting. AfPIF 2018 @iWeek, 21 – 23 August 2018, Cape Town, South Africa The 9th African Peering and Interconnection Forum (AfPIF) will be held between 21-23 August 2018 in Cape Town, South Africa. The African Peering and Interconnection Forum addresses the key interconnection, peering, and traffic exchange opportunities and challenges on the continent and provides participants with global and regional insights for maximising opportunities that will help grow Internet infrastructure and services in Africa. https://www.afpif.org/ 2nd Asia-Pacific Information Superhighway Steering Committee Meeting, 27-28 August, Bangkok, Thailand. Raj Singh will participate as part of the steering committee, and will also speak at the 2nd Session of the Committee on ICT, Science, Technology and Innovation, which will be held on the 28-31 August. Both events are organised by UNESCAP. ITU Annual Regional Human Capacity building workshop on “Strengthening capacities in Internet governance in Africa”, Abuja, Nigeria, from 27-29 August 2018. The workshop is organized by the ITU Telecommunication Development Bureau in partnership with Diplo Foundation and hosted by the Digital Bridge Institute (DBI) of Nigeria. The objectives of the workshop are to strengthen capacities of the ITU membership in the field of Internet governance, involving different stakeholders in the delivery of the workshop, and to provide a general overview of key aspects related to international Internet governance discussions. This corresponds to the outcomes of the ITU World Telecommunication Development Conference (WTDC) 2017, where ITU Member States agreed that capacity building of the ITU membership in international Internet governance is one of the priority issues to be addressed by ITU’s capacity building programme. ISOC will present the AUC Personal Data Protection and Privacy Guidelines for Africa. https://www.itu.int/en/ITU-D/Capacity Building/Pages/events/2018/ Internet%20Governance/AFR/Internetgovernance.aspx Enhancing IoT Security; Ottowa, Canada, 21 June African Chapters Advocacy meeting, Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, 21 June Africa Community Networks workshop; Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, 19 -20 June Internet Governance Programme for the Philippine government, Manila, Philippines, 11-13 July Enhancing IoT Security Focus Group, Montreal, Canada, 17 July 4th Meeting of the African Telecommunications Union (ATU) Preparatory Group for PP-18 (ATU PM PP18-4), 13-17 August 2018, Nairobi, Kenya. The ATU hosted the preparatory process for, and development of, African Common Proposals to the ITU PP-18 and receive updated information on the arrangements towards the ITU Plenipotentiary Conference due to be held in Dubai, united Arab Emirates from 29th October to 16th November, 2018. The objective of this meeting is to review the report of the three preparatory meetings and provide an update on the progress, as well as adopt and endorse, the African Common Proposals towards PP-18 ready for submission to ITU. Verengai Mabika and Elizabeth Oluoch will be representing ISOC.Home18th APT Policy and Regulatory Forum, 8-10 August, Dhaka, Bangladesh. The forum provides a platform for decision makers to discuss ICT issues that are of common interest to the region. Noelle de Guzman presented on IoT guidelines for policymakers LACIGF11, 31st July - 2 August, Buenos Aires, Argentina The 11th edition of the Latin American and the Caribbean Regional Preparatory Meeting to IGF took place in Argentina, with a packed agenda on key topics for the region in connectivity, digital inclusion, data protection, freedom of expression among others. Raul Echeberria held a keynote speech about the Future of the IGF and the need to make changes for a stronger IGF. MoU with the Philippine Government, 5 July, Manila, Philippines. The APAC Bureau signed an MoU with the Philippines’ Department of ICT (DICT) to co-develop the National ICT Ecosystem Framework using the multi-stakeholder approach. The Framework will guide ICT development in the country until 2022 Internet Governance Training Programme, 11-13 July, Manila, Philippines. In partnership with the Asia-Pacific Telecommunity, the Philippines' Department of ICT and the Philippine Chapter, the APAC Bureau conducted a 3-day training programme on Internet governance in Manila, with more than 70 representatives from government participating. ISOC comment on NTIA's Notice of Inquiry for their International Agenda, 17 July. The comment states the Internet Society’s ongoing support for the IANA Stewardship Transition; calls for the US government to champion the multistakeholder model both domestically and globally; identifies the Internet Society’s call for reform of the Internet Governance Forum; addresses extraterritoriality and the open Internet; calls on the US government to support strong encryption; and, supports the NTIA’s multistakeholder approach to securing the Internet of Things. The comment is available here: https://www.ntia.doc.gov/files/ntia/ publications/isoc_comment-ntia-noi-2018-07-17.pdf Senegalese Delegation to Enhance IoT Security, 19-20 July, Ottawa, Canada. The North American Regional Bureau and African Regional Bureau hosted a delegation of Senegalese government officials in Ottawa. The Senegalese visited to learn about the ISOC-led Canadian process to enhance IoT security in order to potentially implement a similar process in their home country. The delegates met with the internal ISOC team working on the IoT initiative, the multistakeholder community that are participating in the process, and senior officials in the Canadian government. IGF-USA 2018, 27 July, Washington DC, US The Internet Governance Forum USA is a multistakeholder effort that gathers thought leaders from civil society, industry, academia and government in an effort to cultivate constructive discussions about the future of the Internet. Topics included: the future of work, privacy frameworks, connectivity, competition, smart cities, platform content moderation, extraterritoriality of court ruling; and fake news. The forum, co-chaired by ISOC DC chapter Dustin Phillips and Logan Circle Strategies’ Shane Tews, showcased a wide spectrum of thought leaders to share, connect to, and address important and controversial topics. For more information and to watch the livestream, visit: https://www.igf- usa.org/igf-usa-2018 G20 Open Letter - Internet Society, together with the WebFoundation and Mozilla, has published an open letter calling G20 leaders to put people at the center for sound policies on key topics such as access, privacy and data protection, freedom of expression, cybersecurity and digital economy competition. The letter is open for endorsements at: https:// g20openletter.org African Union Commission Cybersecurity workshop, 23-27 July 2018, Addis Ababa, Ethiopia The Internet Society Africa Regional Bureau (ARB) participated at the African Union Commission (AUC) Cybersecurity workshop, which focused on setting of national CERTs. Verengai Mabika presented on the Personal Data Protection Guidelines, Internet Infrastructure and Security Guidelines as well as the IoT and MANRS campaigns. The workshop brought 120 delegates from about 30 African countries. Nigeria National Internet Governance Forum from 2-3 July 2018 ISOC Nigeria Chapter participated actively in the 2018 and took the opportunity to speak about the Community Networks (CN) Campaign. The Internet Society supported the event with remote participation and livestreaming. More at: http://isoc.ng/nigf/ Gambia National Internet Governance Forum from 4-5 July 2018. ISOC Gambia Chapter participated in the 2018 IGF and presented on ISOC partnership with the African Union Commission focusing on the AUC and Personal Data Protection Guidelines and CN Campaign. The Internet Society supported the event with remote participation and livestreaming. More at: http://www.gmigf.gm/events.html
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2.2. IANA Liaison Report
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IANA Services Liaison Report – 12 September 2018 SLA Deliverables Update: - ICANN met 100% of processing goal times for the July 2018 monthly statistics reports, exceeding the SLA goal to meet 90% of processing goal times. These times include the steps that ICANN has control over and not time it is waiting on requesters, document authors or other experts. Monthly reports can be found at: https://www.iana.org/ performance/ietf-statistics Other News: - Waiting for response from IDNA expert regarding posting of revised tables. - Invitations will be sent soon for our annual survey to IANA Services customers from the service period September 1, 2017 through August 31, 2018. IANA Services Operator and IETF Leadership Meeting Minutes: MEETING MINUTES - BEGIN Summary of Meeting Minutes Monday, July 16, 2018 Lunch Meeting at IETF-102, Montreal 1200 Local Time, 1600 UTC Attendees: Jari Arkko, IAB IANA Program Alissa Cooper, IETF Chair Michelle Cotton, Protocol Parameters Engagement Sr. Manager Kim Davies, IANA VP/PTI President Ted Hardie, IAB Chair Russ Housley, IAB IANA Program Alexey Melnikov, Area Director Portia Wenze-Danley, Interim IAD Suzanne Woolf, IAB IANA Program Sabrina Tanamal, Senior IANA Services Specialist 1. Introductions and Welcome Alexey Melnikov has joined us today to participate in the discussion on Media Type Processing. 2. Review of Action Items Completed: M. Cotton to send Inactive Process Documentation report. Sent report to T. Hardie on 7/15/18. In progress: A. Cooper and T. Hardie to review existing escalation procedures. Completed: A. Baber to send R. Housley information on the xmss-hash- based-registry. Sent information to R. Housley on 3/19/18. Completed: Review the Annual Review of Protocol Parameters report, prepare statement, send to IAOC for approval and posting. Posted on https://iaoc.ietf.org/documents/IANA-Annual-Audits-201417.pdf. In Progress: A. Cooper and T. Hardie to discuss potential 8126bis or other document telling community to consider what data to publish in registries. This will be a joint draft between the IESG, IAB and IANA Services. Completed: M. Cotton to provide inventory report for Protocol Parameter registries for GDPR/PII. Provided report to the IETF leadership on 5/15/18. Completed: M. Cotton to inquire if April call is needed to follow-up on GDPR discussions. Discussed during the regularly scheduled May call. In Progress: M. Cotton and K. Davies to write an I-D with the proposed plan for .ARPA. Completed: M. Cotton to deliver GDPR Plan for review. Plan delivered on 7/15/18. See discussion below. 3. IANA Services Activity Processed more than 1047 IETF-related requests from March 2018 - May 2018. This includes: Document reviews, registry creations, new registrations, modifications to existing registrations, and deletions. This reporting period was for 3 months as opposed to the normal 4-month period. Added 4 new stand-alone registries since IETF-101 (March 2018- May 2018) SLA Deliverables: Average cumulative percentage for December 2017-May 2018 was 99.66%. 4. Update on Deliverables The work for the Annual Review of Protocol Parameters by the new audit firm RSM has commenced. We will kick off the review of the proposed 2019 SLA after IETF-102. 5. Update on Projects General Data Protection Regulations (GDPR) For TRIP-ITAD Numbers: A. Cooper suggested to have a bis document explaining the plans for displaying addresses for future registrations and current registrations. J. Arkko drafted an I-D on the TRIP postal address update. K. Davies updates the group on a few items relating to GDPR, such as improving data quality, decreasing spam, and improving our documentation to make things more transparent. Everyone should read the draft plan and circulate any questions or concerns to the group. Action: M. Cotton will forward to IETF’s legal counsel for their information. .ARPA – Draft in process to detail the proposed changes to the nameservers. Registry Workflow System Project Continuing to work through special registry cases and add functionality. Staff started reviewing and providing feedback on submission forms generated from the registry fields in the database. Potential adding status columns for registries R. Housley said the syntax seems straightforward, but the semantics is not. Inquired about the notes section. M. Cotton is reviewing the notes section and will report back after. T. Hardie suggested instead of having notes fields for registries, create a real column for status. More research will be done on this idea. Right now will keep adding the status column on a registry by registry basis. Customer Satisfaction Survey Changes Working on post-ticket survey Survey individual requesters after the completion of their request Continue to survey customer groups annually 6. Discussion Items Updates on Port Numbers Process Review M. Cotton updates the group on the potential for utilizing the mailing list for reviewing port requests. Working with M. Kuehlewind on socializing the plan. Updates about status of Media Type Experts A. Melnikov briefly explained the primary expert’s workflow. Having some sort of tracking tool might be helpful. Group discussion: T. Hardie - weekly email seems sufficient to track progress of requests M. Cotton suggested switching secondary to become primary expert. A. Melnikov will send a management item to approve this addition to primary. M. Cotton suggested to pre-assign tickets to expert. A. Melnikov to follow up with experts to see if this would work. M. Cotton and K. Davies will review weekly email to see if improvements can be made and if automation is possible for reporting. IDN Tables – Updates from IETF-102: Waiting to hear the outcome from the BOF this afternoon. Debian licensing request: T. Hardie - should not be modifiable to include things in a Debian package, they should be pointed to the IETF Trust License. K. Davies will respond about the license request. If follow-up is needed for the Debian request, the group will be contacted. Feedback for FY20 budget: PTI’s bylaws require consultations with our customer groups regarding budget planning for FY20. Action Item: K. Davies to send follow-up email for feedback Update on response to NTIA regarding IANA Stewardship Transition T. Hardie sent the IAB response to the NTIA NOI Action Item: Ted will send the response to our mailing list 7. Informal Meeting Schedule In person July 16, 2018 (Montreal) This meeting Phone September 24, 2018 In person November 5, 2018 (Bangkok) Phone January 28, 2019 In Person March 25, 2019 (Prague) 8. Summary of New Action Items Action item: M. Cotton will forward GDPR plan to IETF’s legal counsel for their information Action item: M. Cotton and K. Davies will review weekly email to Media Type experts to see if improvements can be made. Action Item: K. Davies to send follow-up email regarding the FY20 budget planning for feedback Action Item: Ted will send the NTIA NOI response to our mailing list MEETING MINUTES - END
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2.3. RFC Editor Liaison Report
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RSE * RFC Format Testing of the various tools associated with the new format continues. Alice Russo (RPC), Megan Ferguson (RPC), Jim Schaad (developer), Robert Sparks (PM), and Heather Flanagan (RSE) met in August to discuss details around svgchk, rfclint, and xmldiff. Those tools are feature complete and the developer is now focusing on bug reports. Another meeting will be scheduled in September with Henrik Levkowetz and the RPC testing team to discuss the preptool and publication formatter functionality. See https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/FormatToolsPlan for information on the expected release schedule for the various tools. * GitHub Experiment With the publication of RFC 8446 (TLS 1.3), the first half of the experiment to use GitHub during AUTH48 is complete. The experiment will continue, modified based on what the RPC and the authors found from the first round of interaction, when draft-ietf-rtcweb-jsep-24 is ready AUTH48for . Exactly what will change is still under discussion. For more information on the process being followed, please see: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rse/wiki/doku.php?id=github_auth48_experiment * Planning for 2019 Priorities The RSE and key RPC staff are planning to meet in October to discuss the priority and scope of work in 2019. This is just the first step in identifying and prioritizing RFC Editor efforts; the next steps will be to discuss this with the RSOC, the stream managers, and the community. RPC * https://www.rfc-editor.org/report-summary/ The RPC is not expecting to meet the SLA in Q3. Significant time has been dedicated to both testing new tools and the GitHub experiment, as well as training a new editor, Reuben Esparza, who replaces Dave Fonseca on the RPC team. See the reports page for the latest information on the SLA.
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2.4. ICANN Liaison Report
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I. Public Comments needing attention (only highlights) ======================================================= (All public comment processes: https://www.icann.org/public-comments#open-public) Recommendations for Managing IDN Variant Top-Level Domains (https://www.icann.org/public-comments/managing-idn-variant- tlds-2018-07-25-en) End date: 17 Sep 2018 Proposals for Kannada, Oriya and Telugu Scripts' Root ZoneLabel Generation Rules (https://www.icann.org/public-comments/kannada-oriya-telugu- lgr-2018-08-08-en) End date: 20 Sep 2018 Proposals for Devanagari, Gurmukhi, and Gujarati Scripts' Root Zone Label Generation Rules (Proposals for Devanagari, Gurmukhi, and Gujarati Scripts' Root Zone Label Generation Rules) End date: 21 Sep 2018 Initial Report on the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Policy Development Process (Overarching Issues & Work Tracks 1-4) (https://www.icann.org/public-comments/gtld-subsequent-procedures- initial-2018-07-03-en) End date: 26 Sep 2018 Next Steps On Reviews (https://www.icann.org/public-comments/reviews-next-steps-2018-09-05-en) End Date: 5 Oct 2018 Proposed gTLD-Registration Data Access Protocol (RDAP) Profile (https://www.icann.org/public-comments/proposed-rdap-profile-2018-08-31- en) End date: 13 Oct 2018 Registration Directory Service (RDS-WHOIS2) Review Team Draft Report of Recommendations (https://www.icann.org/public-comments/rds-whois2-review-2018-09-04-en) End Date: 4 Nov 2018 II. Topics that could be relevant ================================== Ongoing activities: Namespace issues ---------------- The SSAC has answered the board's request for a project proposal on namespace collisions (https://www.icann.org/public-comments/reserve- fund-replenishment-2018-03-06-en) as reported the last time. The board is still waiting for the updated version if the project proposal, which is expected to come relatively soon. GDPR —— As expected GDPR is continuing to be an active issue as can be read in different publications close to the domain name issues. ICANN started an “Expedited Policy Development Process” (EPDP) to address the temporary specification (https://www.icann.org/news/blog/gnso-council-launches- edpd-on-the-temporary-specification-for-gtld-registration-data) New board members become active ———————————————— This upcoming board retreat will be the first one where the new board members finally become active. This means that Harald (IETF liaison), Merike Kaeo (SSAC), Tripti Sinha (Nomcom) and Nigel Roberts (CCNSO) will now be in the meeting and start working with the board. III. (If relevant) upcoming meeting topics of importance ========================================================= ICANN Board retreat, 14-16th September 2018
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3. Future Tech Plenaries
Melinda Shore reported that the Plenary Planning Program has a meeting next week and will review the current list of proposals. The Program is still looking at decentralized infrastructure as the topic for the plenary in Bangkok.
4. Public IAB Teleconferences
The IAB took an action at their last meeting to review the narrative notes from three previous IAB meetings and mark whether each section could have been discussed in a public session. Ted Hardie noted that there were a couple of topics where there was disagreement amongst those who reviewed the notes.
One area where there was disagreement about whether the conversation could be had in public was the “Future Tech Plenaries” topic. Brian Trammell noted that parts of the discussion (such as plenary topics) could be public, but that there would need to be a way to discuss potential speakers that would not result in a loss of face if a particular speaker was not chosen for a plenary.
Suzanne Woolf noted that in reviewing the transcripts, the IAB had the benefit of hindsight; in real-time making portions of the IAB meetings public would probably result in a change to how the IAB does their work.
Melinda Shore said that if there are topics on an agenda that will not be discussed in public, the IAB should articulate why those discussions require confidentiality. The IAB identified a few potential reasons discussions would require confidentiality:
- Discussions of personnel matters
- Negotiations with other bodies
- Tech chats where the guest was not comfortable speaking to the public
Ted Hardie and Cindy Morgan will propose agendas for the next two IAB meeting that could be split into public and confidential sections. Based on those proposals, the IAB will decide whether to proceed with an experiment to make IAB teleconferences public.
5. Shine Program
The IAB discussed the proposed Shine Program. Christian Huitema said that he sees things falling under a few different categories:
- The perceived loss of privacy
- The asymmetric relationship between users and platforms
- The lack of trust on information
- The ossification of the Internet
Ted Hardie said that he was interested in looking at where these things reinforce each other.
Brian Trammell suggested that holding a workshop on this topic first might make it easier to see where there is energy to do work, and thus easier to organize into an IAB Program. Several people agreed; Christian Huitema and Brian Trammell took an action to write a proposal for a “loss of shine” workshop.
6. ESCAPE Workshop
This item was deferred because Mark Nottingham was unable to attend the meeting.
7. IETF/IEEE 802 Joint Meeting
Ted Hardie asked the IAB to start thinking about agenda topics for the joint meeting between the IAB, IESG, and IEEE 802 leadership that will happen after IETF 103 in Bangkok. Ted asked the IAB to send potential topics out to the list and cc Russ Housley as the liaison manager to IEEE-SA.
8. IDNA Parameter Registry Update
Ted Hardie reported that he and Suzanne Woolf have talked to Patrik Faltstrom about updating the IDNA Parameter Registry. Patrik is currently deciding whether to update the tables now and publish draft-faltstrom-unicode11 as a retrospective of what happened, or to update the document and try to collect more feedback before updating the tables. If the document is used to collect feedback, the IAB should comment quickly, as the longer the tables go without being updated, the more risk there is for breaking interoperability.