Minutes of the 2019-02-13 IAB Teleconference (Business Meeting)
1. Administrivia
1.1. Attendance
Present:
- Harald Alvestrand (ICANN Liaison)
- Jari Arkko
- Deborah Brungard (IESG Liaison)
- Alissa Cooper (IETF Chair)
- Michelle Cotton (IANA Liaison)
- Stephen Farrell (incoming IAB)
- Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor)
- Wes Hardaker (incoming IAB)
- Ted Hardie (IAB Chair)
- Christian Huitema
- Zhenbin Li (incoming IAB)
- Gabriel Montenegro
- Cindy Morgan (IAB Executive Administrative Manager)
- Erik Nordmark
- Mark Nottingham
- Karen O’Donoghue (ISOC Liaison)
- Colin Perkins (incoming IRTF Chair)
- Melinda Shore
- Robert Sparks
- Jeff Tantsura
- Martin Thomson
- Amy Vezza (Secretariat)
- Suzanne Woolf
Regrets:
- Allison Mankin (IRTF Chair)
- Brian Trammell
Observers:
- Spencer Dawkins
- Alexa Morris
- Greg Wood
1.2. Agenda bash & announcements
Cindy Morgan asked the IAB to respond to the thread on the IAB list about selecting a time for conference calls after IETF 104.
1.3. Meeting Minutes
The following meeting minutes remain under review:
- 2019-02-06 business meeting – (draft submitted 2019-02-06)
1.4. Action Item Review
The internal action item list was reviewed.
2. Monthly Reports
2.1. ISOC Liaison Report
–Begin ISOC Liaison Report, Karen O’Donoghue–
Internet Society Liaison Report to the IAB 13 Feb 2019 1. 2019 Action Plan The Internet Society is currently executing on the 2019 Action Plan that was previously published online. This plan provides a high level overview of all the activities planned for the year. https://www.internetsociety.org/action-plan/2019/ 2. Network and Distributed System Security (NDSS) Symposium The 26th Network and Distributed System Security (NDSS) Symposium will be happening 24-27 February in San Diego. It once again features published academic research (89 papers this year) along with four workshops (Usable Security and Privacy (USEC), Measurements Measurements, Attacks, and Defenses for the Web (MADWeb), Decentralised IoT Systems and Security (DISS), and Binary Analysis Research (BAR)). We also expect to inaugurate an NDSS Test of Time Award this year recognizing research that was published 10 or more years ago at NDSS that had a substantial impact. The draft program is available here: https://www.ndss-symposium.org/ndss-program/ndss-symposium-2019-program/
–End ISOC Liaison Report, Karen O’Donoghue–
Ted Hardie asked if ISOC needs anything from the IAB for the workshop planned for Prague on the current state of the Internet economy. Karen O’Donoghue will ask Mat Ford and get back to the IAB.
2.2. ICANN Liaison Report
–Begin ICANN Liaison Report, Harald Alvestrand–
ICANN report - up to February 12, 2019 This report covers the activity seen by this IETF liaison to ICANN in January 2019. The main ICANN activity [the liaison] participated in was the Board retreat in Los Angeles, Jan 25-27. Hot topics ------------- - Strategic plan: Now that we have one, the board is eager to see it turned into concrete activities. This will be a topic in Kobe. - ePDP on WHOIS: there's signs that consensus is forthcoming, but no official final report has been delivered yet. - Future governance of DNS Root Services (RSSAC 037-038): An approach to "how to get there" has been written up by ICANN staff and shared with RSSAC. Still to be discussed in the Board and its technical committee. - As usual, a lot of reviews are in progress in various stages. CCT review -- https://www.icann.org/resources/reviews/specific-reviews/cct -- is one of them. The board is in the process of evaluating its recommendations - recommendations don’t come with guesses as to size, cost or complexity, so there's still some work to do here before one can say "yes", "no", or "yes, if we implement it this way". Next meeting: ICANN general meeting in Kobe, Japan - March 7-15.
–End ICANN Liaison Report, Harald Alvestrand–
Harald Alvestrand will send a link to the draft report on ePDP out to the IAB.
2.3. IANA Liaison Report
–Begin IANA Liaison Report, Michelle Cotton–
IANA Services Liaison Report – 13 February 2019 SLA Deliverables Update: - ICANN met 99% of processing goal times for December 2018 monthly statistics reports, exceeding the SLA goal to meet 90% of processing goal times. These times include the steps that ICANN has control over and not time it is waiting on requesters, document authors or other experts. Monthly reports can be found at: https://www.iana.org/ performance/ietf-statistics - The annual review of processing protocol parameter related requests, a deliverable in the annual SLA, has been completed. The confidential SOC2 report, prepared by RSM, has been provided to the IETF Leadership for its review. There were no exceptions related to the delivery of the protocol parameters function. Other News: - Waiting for response from IDNA expert regarding posting of revised tables. IANA Services Operator and IETF Leadership Meeting Minutes: None to report
–End IANA Liaison Report, Michelle Cotton–
2.4. RFC Editor Liaison Report
–Begin RFC Editor Liaison Report, Heather Flanagan–
RSE * RFC Format Several milestones have been met in the format project over the last month. The RPC has signed off on testing the new format tools, and the RSE is working with Robert Sparks and Russ Housley to determine the next steps for the community with regards to testing. Work is also underway to develop an xml2rfc v3 tutorial for IETF 104. In addition to the above, the IETF LLC has asked the RSOC to consider whether there are any concerns regarding a potential donation from Callas Software for a tool that will allow the creation of PDF/A-3 files. Callas Software has offered to donate the necessary tools with the provisions that these tools will only be used by the RFC Editor during the RFC publication process, and that Callas can state that we are using their software. There are very few tools that create PDF/A-3 files, and Callas is an active member of the PDF Consortium, giving them a strong background for the tools the RFC Editor needs. * Issues in the Historical Record Darius Kazemi, author of the blog “365 RFCs”, has discovered some interesting and challenging discrepancies in the early RFCs. Initial issues include: discovery of the “missing” title page of RFC 2, and two documents purporting to be RFC 32. Resolving these discrepancies has become its own project, bringing in early day participants in the pre- IETF universe including Steve Crocker, Vint Cerf, Bob Kahn, John Klensin, Jake Feinler, Bob Metcalfe, and several others. For the issue regarding the re-discovered title page for RFC 2, the RFC Editor will correct the metadata in their database with the correct title. No other changes will be made. For the issue around the multiple RFC 32s, the RFC Editor record indicates that the RFC 32 written by Jerry Cole is the “correct” version as far as the RFC Editor archive indicates. The alternate RFC 32, written by Dietrich Vedder, is referred to in a small number of later RFCs as RFC32, thus clouding the issue. The desire at this point is to re-publish the Vedder document in the Independent Submission series (as this is very much a pre-stream document) with a foreword clarifying why the document is being published today, thus giving it its own RFC number, and then submitting errata against those RFCs that point to the "wrong" RFC 32. There remains an open question regarding the copyright for the work, and discussions will happen with the IETF LLC to determine whether republishing at this time is possible with appropriate (and unusual) copyright provisions. * Fifty Years of RFCs The RSE has posted a revised draft to mark the fiftieth year of publishing RFCs to the datatracker. Community feedback suggests more information on Jon Postel's role is needed, and Steve Crocker, Vint Cert, and Dave Crocker are working to expand that text. This conversation is ongoing. RPC * https://www.rfc-editor.org/report-summary/ From the reports page: Q1 2019 notes: As can be seen in Figure 1, publications have been slow so far this year. We partially attribute this to the number of clustered documents currently working their way through the queue. Of the documents currently in active states, 46% are part of a cluster; in particular, 63% of the documents in AUTH48 are part of a cluster. On average, 33% of the documents published per year are part of a cluster. Figure 2 shows that document submissions are on the rise. This is shaping up to be the RPC’s toughest year yet, as it appears that a) we are experiencing the usual Q1 document surge associated with AD turnover, b) the record-breaking cluster 238 will soon be released into the EDIT queue, and XMLv3-related tasks are at an all-time high as the RPC prepares to transition to XMLv3 during this calendar year. The RPC has also completed a data cleanup project so that all "never issued" values are handled in a consistent manner and made errata in JSON format available to public.
–End RFC Editor Liaison Report, Heather Flanagan–
3. IAB Retreat
The IAB discussed date options for their 2019 retreat. Noting that there does not appear to be an option that would result in perfect face-to-face attendance, the IAB decided to attempt to minimize absences at the retreat and travel time for people also planning to attend the QUIC interim meeting by proceeding with a retreat in Europe for two days around 15-17 May. Cindy Morgan will work with the Secretariat meeting planners and come back with options for the IAB.
4. IAB Agenda at IETF 104
The IAB discussed their agenda for IETF 104.
Ted Hardie suggested that the IAB might want to review the Thing-to-Thing Research Group or the Quantum Internet Proposed Research Group at IETF 104. Colin Perkins will follow up with Allison Mankin about the IRTF review.
Cindy Morgan asked Program Leads who are planning to hold Program meetings at IETF 104 to let her know as soon as possible.
5. ESCAPE Workshop
Mark Nottingham reported that one of the ART Area Directors will likely be able to attend the ESCAPE workshop if it is held right before IETF 105 in an adjacent location.
The current plan is to discuss ESCAPE during the DISPATCH session at IETF 104, with the anticipation that they will request a BOF at IETF 105.
6. Design Expectations vs. Deployment Reality in Protocol Development (DEDR) Workshop
Ted Hardie sent out updated text for the DEDR Workshop call for papers on 11 February 2019; he noted that he has not seen any further comments.
The IAB discussed timing for the workshop. Ted Hardie will work with Cindy Morgan to send out a Doodle poll to select dates for the workshop in June 2019.
7. “Trust in Internet Entities” Statements
Melinda Shore reported that Wes Hardaker has agreed to help with the “Trust in Internet Entities” statement that is aimed at protocol designers.
Mark Nottingham reported that work on the “Trust in Internet Entities” statement that is aimed at legislators is still in progress.
8. EU Multistakeholder Platform on ICT Standardisation
Gabriel Montenegro asked the IAB to select a new IAB liaison shepherd for the EU Multistakeholder Platform on ICT Standardisation before IETF 104, as the IAB has to respond to the “Call for Applications for the Renewal of the Membership” by 15 March 2019. It would be good to have the new liaison shepherd assigned before that deadline so that the context is not lost when Gabriel steps down from the IAB at IETF 104.
There was not an immediate volunteer. Ted Hardie agreed to attend the planning calls with Gabriel Montenegro and the liaison managers in the interim, but asked that this be revisited at IETF 104, as it would be good if the liaison shepherd was based in Europe.
9. Plenary Planning Program Update
Melinda Shore reported that the potential speaker for IETF 104 was not being responsive; after some discussion, the IAB agreed that Melinda should let him know that he has until 19 February 2019 to confirm he can make it.
10. Executive Session: Upcoming Appointments and Personnel Issues
10.1. Privacy and Security Program Membership
In an executive session, the IAB approved adding incoming Security Area Director Roman Danyliw to the Privacy and Security Program.
10.2. ISOC Board of Trustees Appointment
The IAB voted on the IETF appointment to the ISOC Board of Trustees in an executive session. Alissa Cooper and Suzanne Woolf recused themselves from the discussion and voting.
11. Executive Session: Appeal to make the procedure related to Independent Submission Stream more transparent
The appeal to make the procedures related to the Independent Submission Stream more transparent was discussed in an executive session.