Minutes of the 2019-03-13 IAB Teleconference
- Jari Arkko
- Deborah Brungard (IESG Liaison)
- Alissa Cooper (IETF Chair)
- Michelle Cotton (IANA Liaison)
- Stephen Farrell (incoming IAB)
- Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor)
- Ted Hardie (IAB Chair)
- Christian Huitema
- Zhenbin Li (incoming IAB)
- Allison Mankin (IRTF Chair)
- Gabriel Montenegro
- Cindy Morgan (IAB Executive Administrative Manager)
- Erik Nordmark
- Mark Nottingham
- Karen O’Donoghue (ISOC Liaison)
- Colin Perkins (incoming IRTF Chair)
- Robert Sparks
- Jeff Tantsura
- Martin Thomson
- Brian Trammell
- Amy Vezza (Secretariat)
- Harald Alvestrand (ICANN Liaison)
- Wes Hardaker (incoming IAB)
- Melinda Shore
- Suzanne Woolf
- Greg Wood
1.2. Agenda bash & announcements
No new items were added to the agenda.
1.3. Meeting Minutes
The following meeting minutes remain under review:
- 2019-02-27 business meeting – (draft submitted 2019-02-27)
- 2019-03-06 business meeting – (draft submitted 2019-03-06)
1.4. Action Item Review
The internal action item list was reviewed.
2. Monthly Reports
2.1. ISOC Liaison Report
–Begin ISOC Liaison Report, Karen O’Donoghue–
Internet Society Liaison Report to the IAB 13 Mar 2019 1. Network and Distributed System Security (NDSS) Symposium and co- located workshops The 26th Network and Distributed System Security (NDSS) Symposium was held 24-27 February in San Diego. It featured 89 peer-reviewed academic papers along with four workshops (Usable Security and Privacy (USEC), Measurements Measurements, Attacks, and Defenses for the Web (MADWeb), Decentralised IoT Systems and Security (DISS), and Binary Analysis Research (BAR)). Attendance was at a record level. An NDSS Test of Time Award was awarded for the first time this year with one of the papers awarded having subsequent impact on the IETF (via the IKE work). The blog announcing the awards is: https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/ 2019/02/ndss-2019-honors-timeless-papers/ . The full program is available at: https://www.ndss-symposium.org/ndss-program/ndss-symposium-2019-program/. 2. Global Internet Report 2019: Consolidation in the Internet Economy - 26th February, 2019 The next Internet Society Global Internet Report (GIR) was published on the 26th February, focusing on Consolidation in the Internet Economy. The report builds on work in 2018, including input from the community (surveys, interviews etc.), and offers a set of research questions that ISOC will be focusing on in 2019. The online version of the report is available here (a PDF version will be available later in March):Consolidation in the Internet Economy3. Call for Papers: Journal of Cyber Policy's Special Issue on Internet Consolidation - Deadline 1 April Following the Global Internet Report 2019, and the need to learn more about how consolidation may impact the Internet's continued evolution and use, the Internet Society and Chatham House is this year collaborating on a special issue of the Journal of Cyber Policy on the topic of consolidation. The goal is to encourage in-depth and interdisciplinary research related to the outcome questions of the GIR. The Call for Papers is available here (deadline for submitting an abstract is 1 April) : https://www.internetsociety.org/issues/future/ 2019-consolidation-call-for-papers/ 4. Research Funding for Data Collection on Consolidation The issue of data proved to be one of the biggest hurdles as we were working on the Global Internet Report (GIR) 2019. We therefore want to encourage interested parties to help with the creation of relevant data sets to further research and the broader Internet community's understanding of how consolidation may impact the Internet. This data that will then be made openly available and hopefully encourage even further research. For more information about this opportunity and how to apply, please visit: https://www.internetsociety.org/issues/future/2019- consolidation-research-funding/
–End ISOC Liaison Report, Karen O’Donoghue–
2.2. IRTF Chair Report
–Begin IRTF Chair Report, Allison Mankin–
IETF 104 Plans --------------------- - Kudos to the Secretariat, especially Liz Flynn, on scheduling. All the RGs and Proposed RGs are meeting in person, along with a pre-RG chartering BOF co-sponsored with IAB (SMART). ANRP ---------- - Three talks in IRTFOPEN in Prague, picking up the one that was postponed from IETF 103 (full schedule attached again below) ANRW --------- - ANRW '19 Call for Papers has been approved by the co-chairs and steering committee, and sent out. It's posted at https://irtf.org/anrw/2019/ Transition Planning -------------------------- - Present Chair provided four transition sessions online with the incoming Chair - Prepared a runlist of the early IETF week transition tasks (e.g. passwords) - Noted that the datatracker's adaptation to IRTF processes had work still to be done, some of which is on the Tools team backlog, and some that became evident in discussing the transition. - Ballot support for IRSG Poll (but Colin suggested maybe operate IRSG as an IRTF Directorate instead) - RG Creation - tracker allows either Proposed or Active for RGs, but for not being marked Active leaves them invisible in the tracker and hampers work. - Incoming Chair pointed a bis under way for the IRTF process doc, RFC 2014/BCP 8: draft-eggert-irtf-rfc2014bis. Had not gotten on the present Chair's radar at all (!) ISOC and IRTF Post-LLC ----------------------------------------- - The IAD, the IRTF Chair, and the ISOC CITO agreed on several post-LLC matters. IAD and Incoming IRTF Chair have the consensus email on this, and it is reflected in the published LLC budget. ANRP budget and logistics remain at ISOC; IRTF Chair commits to chair and run the ANRP selection process. ANRW budget and operations are under LLC; ISOC commits to a sponsorship donation, similar to ACM SIGCOMM's and to program management support from Mat Ford or another staff member going forward. - Fundraising for ANRW and ANRP - there are still questions to work out, but the LLC's fundraiser has primary responsibility for ANRW (with IRTF Chair) and ANRP donations should come through ISOC fund-raising. - The ISOC CEO answered an email question about ISOC staff and IRTF RG Chairs by saying that he didn't want to include IRTF specifically in the new staff rules that sent to IETF-Discuss on March 11, but that he would expect it applies to ISOC staff serving as RG Chairs. Research Groups ----------------------- - The COIN Proposed RG is having a first meeting in Prague - the co- chairs are Marie-José Montpettit, Eve Schooler, and Jianfei He - The SMART group is having a meeting co-sponsored by IAB and IRTF - this is a follow-up to the CARIS2 workshop as well as a discussion of what should be in the charter of a Proposed RG. The proponents are Kathleen Moriarty and Kirsty Paine - After a review request to the CFRG on March 8 from the RFC Independent Series Editor, debate has begun on the CFRG mailing list about whether CFRG should remain an RG or move to IETF. There are voices on both sides. Document Transitions ------------------------------- AUTH48 Hash-Based Signatures draft-mcgrew-hash-sigs RFC EDIT AES-GCM-SIV: Nonce Misuse-Resistant Authenticated Encryption draft-irtf-cfrg-gcmsiv RFC EDIT Network Virtualization Research Challenges draft-irtf-nfvrg-gaps-network-virtualization RFC EDIT State-of-the-Art and Challenges for the Internet of Things Security draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-seccons RFC EDIT CCNx Semantics draft-irtf-icnrg-ccnxsemantics- RFC EDIT CCNx Messages in TLV Format draft-irtf-icnrg-ccnxmessages TO IESG Re-keying Mechanisms for Symmetric Keys draft-irtf-cfrg-re-keying Reprise of ANRP 2019 Schedule (Updated with Postponed 2018 Award) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 104: Arash Khakhi Molavi, Northeastern University, Taking a Long Look at QUIC, IMC '17 104: Florian Streibelt, Max Planck Inst (Saarbrücken), BGP Communities: Even more Worms in the Routing Can, IMC '18 104: Brandon Schlinker, U. Southern California, Engineering Egress with Edge Fabric: Steering Oceans of Content to the World, SIGCOMM '17 105: Neta Rozen Schiff, Hebrew U. Jerusalem, Preventing (Network) Time Travel with Chronos, NDSS '18 105: Taejoong Chung, Rochester Inst Tech (RIT), Understanding the Role of Registrars in DNSSEC Deployment, IMC '17 106: Weiteng Chen, UC Riverside, Off-path TCP exploit: how wireless routers can jeopardize your secrets, USENIX Security '18 106: Shehar Bano, UCL, Scanning the Internet for Liveness, CCR 4/18
–End IRTF Chair Report, Allison Mankin–
2.3. ICANN Liaison Report
–Begin ICANN Liaison Report, Harald Alvestrand–
ICANN report - up to March 9, 2019 This report covers ICANN activity seen by the board liaison until March 9, 2019. The main activity in this period was preparation for the Kobe meeting. The next report will cover the Kobe meeting itself. Hot topics - Cybersecurity: ICANN issued a couple of warnings about attacks on the infrastructure (see moniker “DNSpionage”). https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2019-02-15-en - ePDP on WHOIS: The working group finished its Phase 1 work, which is a timely result in order to replace the temporary specification that allows registries to operate in a GDPR-compliant manner. This now goes for public comment and further discussion, as well as starting Phase 2 of the work. The Phase 1 document does not specify an unified access model - individual registries and registrars are still legally responsible for responding to queries for non-public registration data. - Future root server system governance: A concept paper has been produced by ICANN based on RSSAC 37/38, and will be the basis for a public consultation in order to come up with a final proposal that is implementable and agreed upon by the ICANN community. - The CCT review report has been processed by the board, with a lot of recommendations accepted, several passed on to the community for consideration as policy changes, and some (especially “collect data” recommendations) held back for a study of feasibility and usefulness - .Amazon is still a work in progress, we do not have clarity. The Kobe meeting starts Monday, March 11.
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2.4. IANA Liaison Report
–Begin IANA Liaison Report, Michelle Cotton–
IANA Services Liaison Report – 13 March 2019 SLA Deliverables Update: - ICANN met 99% of processing goal times for January 2019 monthly statistics reports, exceeding the SLA goal to meet 90% of processing goal times. These times include the steps that ICANN has control over and not time it is waiting on requesters, document authors or other experts. Monthly reports can be found at: https://www.iana.org/performance/ietf-statistics - Revising the 2019 SLA with changes to include the IETF LLC language. Plan to have all necessary reviews completed and ready for approval by IETF-104. Other News: - Waiting for response from IDNA expert regarding posting of revised tables. IANA Services Operator and IETF Leadership Meeting Minutes: None to report
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2.5. RFC Editor Liaison Report
–Begin RFC Editor Liaison Report, Heather Flanagan–
RSE * RFC Format testing Continuing the rapid pace of change in the RFC Format effort, testing to determine the suitability of Callas Software to create PDF/A-3 files is complete, and license keys have been generously donated by Callas to the RFC Editor. The Datatracker is expected to be opened to accepting v3- formatted Internet Drafts within the next few weeks, and a tutorial that describes some of the v3 changes in relation to creating new Internet Drafts is planned for IETF 104. See https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/FormatToolsPlan for a record of what has been released. * Historical Discrepancies As part of his research into the first 365 RFCs, Darius Kazemi, has discovered a few discrepancies in the RFC Editor repository of old RFCs. Specifically, a missing page for RFC 2 and 270 and conflicting records regarding two documents referred as RFC 32. The RPC has posted new copies, based on PDF images acquired from the Computer History Museum, of RFCs 2 and 270 to their respective RFC Info pages. For the more complicated issue of RFC 32, the RSE will be writing a short document, to be published as an RFC, explaining the issue for the record and describing both documents. Errata for those RFCs that point to the different RFC 32 will include a pointer to the explanation of what (probably) happened. * Fifty Years of RFCs Work on the draft marking the anniversary of the fiftieth year of publishing RFCs is still underway. The RSE is working with Vint Cerf, Steve Crocker, and members of the RFC Series Advisory Group to develop a timeline of interesting events and milestones over the course of the last fifty years, and considering additional text to capture Jon Postel's impact on the series. RPC * https://www.rfc-editor.org/report-summary/ The RPC is not expecting to meet the SLA this quarter. For most documents, it's expected that the RFC Editor-controlled time will meet Tier 2 goal (12 weeks or fewer) rather than the Tier 1 goal (6 weeks or fewer). Format update: The RPC installed temporary Callas software/license onto RPC server and tested creation of PDF/A-3 files. Files were then passed to the RSE to review whether they meet the PDF/A-3 requirements. The editors had v3 tutorial sessions with tool developers on xml2rfc (v3), xmldiff, rfclint, and svgcheck.
–End RFC Editor Liaison Report, Heather Flanagan–
3. IAB Agenda at IETF 104
The IAB reviewed their agenda for IETF 104.
Cindy Morgan noted that the IAB still needs a volunteer to cover the proposed Quantum Internet RG. Allison Mankin noted that the Computing in the Network RG is proposed as well, but had not been marked as such in the Datatracker.
Ted Hardie asked those who would consider standing as the IAB’s liaison to the IESG to speak up before Sunday at IETF 104, as the IESG retreat is planned for just a few weeks after the meeting and whoever goes will need time to plan their travel.
4. IAB Retreat
Cindy Morgan reported that the Secretariat is working on contracting with a hotel in Reykjavik for the retreat. She asked IAB members who have not already done so to respond to the Doodle poll about hotel nights.
Potential topics for the IAB retreat are being collected on the wiki: <https://www.iab.org/wiki/index.php/2019_Retreat>
5. Design Expectations vs. Deployment Reality in Protocol Development (DEDR) Workshop
The IAB discussed potential venues for the DEDR Workshop planned for 4-5 June 2019. Ted Hardie asked the IAB members who are interested to look for potential venues and come back with proposals by IETF 104.
6. “Trust in Internet Entities” Statements
Mark Nottingham reported that people have been commenting and suggesting text for the version of the “Trust in Internet Entities” statement that is aimed at legislators. The discussion is ongoing.
Mark Nottingham reported that he was not able to post a new revision of draft-nottingham-for-the-users before the I-D submission deadline for IETF 104 and asked if there was a way to get posting approved during the blackout period. Alissa Cooper replied that an Area Director can approve posting during the blackout period. Mark will send the updated draft to Alissa and Cindy Morgan for posting.
8. Other Business
Ted Hardie asked the IAB to consider whether the IAB teleconferences could be shortened to one hour.