Minutes of the 2020-01-22 IAB Teleconference
- Jari Arkko
- Alissa Cooper (IETF Chair)
- Stephen Farrell
- Wes Hardaker
- Ted Hardie (IAB Chair)
- Mirja Kühlewind (IESG Liaison)
- John Levine (RFC Editor Liaison)
- Zhenbin Li
- Cindy Morgan (IAB Executive Administrative Manager)
- Erik Nordmark
- Mark Nottingham
- Karen O’Donoghue (ISOC Liaison)
- Colin Perkins (IRTF Chair)
- Melinda Shore
- Martin Thomson
- Brian Trammell
- Amy Vezza (IETF Secretariat)
- Harald Alvestrand (ICANN Liaison)
- Michelle Cotton (IANA Liaison)
- Christian Huitema
- Jeff Tantsura
- Ben Campbell
- Cullen Jennings
- Tommy Pauly
- Greg Wood
- Jiankang Yao
1.2. Agenda bash & announcements
Cindy Morgan reminded the IAB to fill out the Doodle poll to select a time for the IETF 107 BOF Coordination call.
An item on draft-iab-for-the-users was added to the agenda.
An item on the Australian Assistance and Access Bill was added to the agenda.
1.3. Meeting Minutes
The following meeting minutes were approved:
- 2019-12-18 business meeting – (draft submitted 2019-12-19)
- 2020-01-08 business meeting – (draft submitted 2020-01-08)
The following meeting minutes remain under review:
- 2020-01-15 business meeting – (draft submitted 2020-01-15)
1.4. Action Item Review
- 2020-01-22: Stephen Farrell and Wes Hardaker to review the community discussion on the draft IAB conflict of interest policy and synthesize it for the IAB.
- 2020-01-22: Mark Nottingham to post the updated version of draft-iab-for-the-users to the Datatracker.
- 2020-01-22: Ted Hardie to send out an e-vote on whether to send draft-iab-for-the-users out for community review.
- 2020-01-22: Mark Nottingham to draft text for a cover letter to forward along with the IAB’s comments on the Australian Assistance and Access Bill to the independent monitor reviewing the legislation.
- 2020-01-22: Ted Hardie to forward the IAB’s comments on the Assistance and Access Bill to the independent monitor reviewing the legislation.
- 2020-01-22: Ted Hardie, Stephen Farrell, and Alissa Cooper to interview the ICANN Technical Liaison Group candidates.
- 2020-01-22: Ted Hardie to send e-vote on 2020-01-27 to confirm the IESG slate presented by NomCom.
- 2020-01-08: Jari Arkko to send the draft Program description text for an IAB Program on Model-T to the email@example.com list.
- 2020-01-08: Alissa Cooper, Wes Hardaker, Brian Trammell, and Jari Arkko to interview the ISOC Board of Trustees candidates.
- 2019-11-17: Jari Arkko to post a draft-iab version of draft-arkko-arch-dedr-report.
- 2019-11-17: Cindy Morgan to send message to architecture-discuss about potential adoption of draft-arkko-arch-dedr-report (after draft-iab version is posted).
- 2020-01-08: Stephen Farrell to work with Cindy Morgan to set up a firstname.lastname@example.org mailing list for discussions on challenges for Internet Resilience.
- 2020-01-08: Ted Hardie to send the draft IAB conflict of interest policy out for IESG and community review.
- 2020-01-08: Ted Hardie to draft a call for nominations to chair the RFC Editor Future Development Program and send it out to the IAB for review.
- 2019-12-11: Jari Arkko, Stephen Farrell, and Christian Huitema to make a recommendation about how to proceed with the Root Server System Governance Working Group (GWG) appointments.
2. Monthly Reports
2.1. ISOC Liaison Report
–Begin ISOC Liaison Report, Karen O’Donoghue–
Internet Society Liaison Report — January 2020 Action Plan 2020 Projects Begin The new year saw the reorganization of Internet Society staff to better support the project work called out in the 2020 Action Plan. The Action Plan hinges around eight projects, each focused on some of the most pressing issues facing the Internet. The plan is available at https://www.internetsociety.org/action-plan/2020/. A pdf version is also available at: https://www.internetsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/ 2019/12/ActionPlan2020_EN.pdf. Projects include Community Networks, Internet Exchange Points, Measuring the Internet, Encryption, Internet Way of Networking, MANRS, Time Security, and Open Standards Everywhere. NDSS 2020 Announces Draft Program The Network and Distributed System Security Symposium announced the list of accepted papers (https://www.ndss-symposium.org/ndss2020/accepted- papers/) along with a draft program for the upcoming event (https://www.ndss-symposium.org/ndss-program/2020-program/). In addition, there are five workshops planned for the event: QUIC Privacy and Security (QUIPS), Measurements, Attacks, and Defenses for the Web (MADWeb), Learning from Authoritative Security Experiment Results (LASER), Binary Analysis Research (BAR), and Decentralized IoT Systems and Security (DISS). With around 100 tentative accepted papers, two keynotes, and five workshops, it is expected to be a busy week in San Diego. Letter Addressing Proposed Amendments to Indian Intermediary Liability Rules The Internet Society coordinated and announced (https:// www.internetsociety.org/blog/2020/01/strong-encryption-is-central-to- good-security-indias-proposed-intermediary-rules-puts-it-at-risk/) a letter signed by nearly thirty computer security and cryptography experts from around the world expressing concern that proposed amendments to intermediary liability rules could weaken security and limit the use of strong encryption on the Internet. (https:// www.internetsociety.org/open-letters/india-intermediary-guidelines/) Proposed sale of Public Interest Registry (PIR) To Ethos Capital Discussion continues around the proposed sale of the Public Interest Registry (PIR), operator of the .ORG, .NGO, and .ONG domains, to Ethos Capital. For more information, see: https://www.keypointsabout.org/
–End ISOC Liaison Report, Karen O’Donoghue–
2.2. IRTF Chair Report
–Begin IRTF Chair Report, Colin Perkins–
IRTF chair report to the IAB for the month [ending] 17 January 2020 # Research Groups * Kenny Paterson stepped down as CFRG chair; replaced by Stanislav Smyshlyaev * NMRG is rechartering # ANRP Selected ANRP winners: * IETF 107: Ranysha Ware, Georgia Fragkouli, and Ingmar Poese * IETF 108: Chaoyi Lu, Shehar Bano (deferred from IETF 106) * IETF 109: Debopam Bhattacherjee * IETF 111: Sadjad Fouladi (deferred due to visa issues) Announcements to be made prior to each meeting. # ANRW TPC selected. Call for papers issued. Budget and sponsorship in progress. # Documents and Errata draft-irtf-icnrg-terminology in IESG conflict review draft-irtf-icnrg-disaster in IESG conflict review draft-irtf-icnrg-deployment-guidelines with RFC Editor draft-irtf-cfrg-argon2 in IRSG review 10 RFC errata awaiting review, relating to five RFCs produced by CFRG. # Other * Agreement with NetFlix to sponsor diversity travel grants for IETF 108. * Solicited IRSG review of IAB CoI policy * Solicited IRSG review of IESG request to obsolete RFC 5050 * Liaison statement received from ETSI ISG ZSM to NMRG * Discussed ISOC Foundation Research awards with Sarah Armstrong (IRTF chair invited to meeting to discuss these, but unable to attend).
–End IRTF Chair Report, Colin Perkins–
2.3. IANA Liaison Report
–Begin IANA Liaison Report, Michelle Cotton–
IANA Services Liaison Report – 22 January 2020 SLA Deliverables Update: - ICANN met 100% of processing goal times for November 2019 and 98% for December 2019 monthly statistics reports, exceeding the SLA goal to meet 90% of processing goal times. These times include the steps that ICANN has control over and not time it is waiting on requesters, document authors or other experts. Monthly reports can be found at: https://www.iana.org/performance/ietf-statistics Other News: Results of 2019 IANA Customer Engagement Survey https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2019-12-11-en IANA Services Operator and IETF Leadership Meeting Minutes: MEETING MINUTES – BEGIN Summary of Meeting Minutes Monday, November 17, 2019 Lunch Meeting at IETF-106, Singapore 1200 Local Time, 0400 UTC Attendees: Jay Daley, IETF LLC Executive Director Jari Arkko, IAB IANA Program Ted Hardie, IAB Chair Alissa Cooper, IETF Chair Portia Wenze-Danley, IETF LLC Administrative Director, Interim Suzanne Woolf, IAB IANA Program Russ Housley, IAB IANA Program Harald Alvestrand, IETF liaison to ICANN Board Kim Davies, VP, IANA Services, ICANN, President, Public Technical Identifiers (PTI) Michelle Cotton, Protocol Parameters Engagement Sr. Manager Sabrina Tanamal, Senior IANA Services Specialist 1. Introductions and Welcome Welcomed Jay Daley to the lunch meeting and shared some background about this group. T. Hardie: most of what we talked about during this meeting is about protocol parameter registries, but we'll also be discussing .arpa today. 2. Review of Action Items from previous meetings M.Cotton and K. Davies: preliminary review for the .arpa draft. Completed. M. Cotton: Gather .arpa stats. Still in process. M. Cotton: Check with Portia as to when supplemental agreement can be signed. Completed. M. Cotton: Speak to R. Housley about a plan regarding IANA language and CCG assistance. Completed. - A. Cooper: since this concerns how IANA uses it and not how the IETF uses it, just get an agreement from the trust. - M. Cotton: we just want to make sure everyone is aware of this. - T. Hardie: you can brief Glenn to let him know that we are aware. - M. Cotton: will reach out to Glenn and give updates if there is any pushback. M. Cotton and K. Davies: Ask Paul about back-up regarding TZ Database coordination. Completed. 3. IANA Services Activity 1164 IETF-related requests. No new stand-alone registries, 17 new sub- registries were added since IETF-105. 4. Update on Deliverables The 2019 supplemental agreement was approved and signed in July 2019. The reassignment of the MoU to the IETF LLC was also fully completed in October 2019. The 2020 Supplemental Agreement has been drafted and sent to this group for review and comment. Registry Workflow System work is progressing. Continuing development on using the new system for first come first served requests. Plan to launch system in early to mid-2020 to begin processing Private Enterprise Number requests and then begin to add other FCFS registries. K. Davies: this is a multiyear project. We're building the workflow component and trying to build a holistic system. M. Cotton: we did the registration procedures review, and the list is long. We found a lot of similarities in the registration procedures between the registries and will reach out to ADs to see if we can update the language and decrease the list. A. Cooper: is 8126bis open? A note on that, it might be interesting to have the list of the most common denominator type that we expect for authors and working group chairs. M. Cotton: we've been pointing authors to the terminology for registration procedures, the status column is a separate topic, authors need to consider whether it's appropriate to add a status column. K. Davies: we've been discussing having a set of templates to guide authors. If they choose not to use one of the templates, then further discussion is required. T. Hardie: if you can keep the documentation out of the RFC, it will be so much simpler to update in the future. 5. Update on Projects Annual engagement survey completed: M. Cotton: this is more engagement focused than request focused. Not sure if it's valuable to send it to the announce list considering the low response rate. We will be evaluating the language for the survey as well as the appropriate audience. .arpa: T. Hardie: when I step down, you'll have to get a new approver on the IAB side. For the .arpa document, I'd like to get these changes done soon. When do you want to make it public? K. Davies: as far as the ownership, is this an IANA or IAB document? T. Hardie: it would be easier to make it an IAB stream. We can Fasttrack better than other streams. K. Davies: we want to give a heads up to the root server operators. S. Woolf: the other thing to think about has to do with timeline, it takes 6mo to renumber a root server because people are so conservative about this. T. Hardie: I don't expect the process to be completed by March, just documented. We don't need to be tight about the name before the IP address or IP address before the name. K. Davies: the preference is to do the renaming first and the IP change later. Renaming the host will solve the initial problems. T. Hardie: iris.arpa is very low use. M. Cotton: we're working with the ICANN DNS team to create stats regularly to see what the traffic is like. T. Hardie: the second draft can go to D. Migault. IAB stream, K. Davies, can be the author. Jari, can you be a co-author? J. Arkko agrees to co-author. Better Documentation for Working Group Chairs, Shepherds, Authors and community M. Cotton: the IESG is working to develop better guidance for shepherds about their role, brainstorming with Alvaro to determine what would be appropriate for the shepherds to check related to IANA . The information on our website is not optimal to see what they have to do with IANA (i.e., an early allocation request has to come from Working Group Chairs). If they need to steer authors, where can they go? We do send a list for new ADs. A. Cooper: please remind Alvaro that he has another action item to update the outdated ID checklist, which includes the IC section. This would be the opportunity to update the checklist since it still referenced 5226. QA Project - a little background about this project - it was suggested by the audit. We're developing a process and making sure we're asking the right questions for the review of our processing requests. This review will focus more on the detailed steps of request processing. We hope to have more updates in March. 6. Discussion Items Updating 8126bis - we're going to be very careful on how we update it, we want living documents on our website that we can continue to update so that RFC publication is not needed. T. Hardie: especially for the parameter templates, they're going to be tough. Port Group Update - M. Cotton: we're reviewing if we need to make any changes to the process for reviewing port requests. We're hoping to meet in person again in Vancouver. TZ Database update - K. Davies: spoke to Paul, and he has identified an alternate. It did raise the question for us if they should be appointed by the IESG? A. Cooper: we should designate the alternate, please submit a management item. K. Davies: we will reach out to the alternate to formalize it. T. Hardie: we can list them as primary and secondary. M. Cotton: will wait to submit management item until K. Davies speaks to the alternate. K. Davies: to evolve the management process for the TZ list. Will keep the group updated on the process. A. Cooper: will you guys filter the response or respond directly? K. Davies: maybe we'll have a form that we can filter or guide them to the mailing list. .int names: K. Davies: we did an inventory of .int and compiled the ones we are going to delete. T. Hardie: write a draft to compile the ones that are going to be removed - explained that they haven't been used. Staffing changes: New IANA Services Specialist starting this month. 7. Informal Meeting Schedule In person November 18, 2019 (Singapore – This meeting) Phone January 27, 2020 (if needed) In person March 23, 2020 (Vancouver) Phone May 18, 2020 (if needed) In person July 27, 2020 (Madrid) Action Item: M. Cotton and K. Davies to turn around another draft for .arpa based on Suzanne and Ted's feedback. Action Item: M. Cotton will reach out to Glenn and give updates if there is any pushback. Action Item: IANA staff will write 1 document to remove each of the .int names MEETING MINUTES - END
–End IANA Liaison Report, Michelle Cotton–
2.4. RFC Editor Liaison Report
–Begin RFC Editor Liaison Report, John Levine–
In his first two weeks the new [Temporary RFC Series Project Manager] has been talking to as many interested people as possible to try to get up to speed. The production center's SLA remains suspended; he's been talking to them to see how best to evaluate proposed new SLA models. Also, there has been continuing development of xml2rfc both to fix bugs and to deal with newly found formatting issues, with changes to the XML vocabulary. The RSOC has not met yet this month.
–End RFC Editor Liaison Report, John Levine–
3. IAB Conflict of Interest Policy
Stephen Farrell and Wes Hardaker will review the community discussion on the draft IAB conflict of interest policy and synthesize it for the IAB.
4. RFC Editor Future Development Program
Ted Hardie sent a call for nominations for the RFC Editor Future Development Program chairs on 2020-01-17. The call for nominations is open until 2020-02-07.
5. IAB Chair Selection Committee
After a brief discussion, Brian Trammell volunteered to chair the IAB Chair Selection Committee for 2020.
Mark Nottingham said that he has an updated version of draft-iab-for-the-users that he believes is ready for community review. Mark will post the updated version to the Datatracker, and Ted Hardie will send out an e-vote on whether to send draft-iab-for-the-users out for community review.
7. Australian Assistance and Access Bill
Mark Nottingham reported that the Australian Assistance and Access Bill is currently under review by an independent monitor, and suggested that the IAB forward their previous comments on the bill to them.
Mark Nottingham will draft text for a cover letter to forward along with the IAB’s comments on the Australian Assistance and Access Bill to the independent monitor reviewing the legislation. Ted Hardie will forward the comments on behalf of the IAB.
8. Next IAB Meeting
The IAB will not meet on 2020-01-29. The next IAB meeting will be on 2020-02-05.
9. Executive Session: ICANN Technical Liaison Group Appointment
The IAB discussed the appointment to the ICANN Technical Liaison Group in an executive session.
Alissa Cooper, Ted Hardie, and Stephen Farrell will interview the ICANN Technical Liaison Group candidates. Cindy Morgan will schedule the interviews.
10. Executive Session: Liaison from ISOC NomCom
The IAB discussed a liaison from the Internet Society NomCom in an executive session.
11. Executive Session: Discussion of IESG Slate from NomCom
Alissa Cooper recused herself from the discussion and left the teleconference. The IAB discussed the IESG slate presented by the IETF NomCom in an executive session. Ted Hardie will send out an e-vote to confirm the IESG slate once the seven-day review period has ended.