2015 Retreat

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Dates and Location

Dates: 4-8 May 2014

Location: London

Venue: Google Central St. Giles location 1-13 St Giles High Street, London WC2H 8AG, United Kingdom ‎ http://goo.gl/maps/9iJzY


A contract has been finalized with The Kingsley (Thistle
Holborn). Bloomsbury Way, London WC1A 2SD Website:

Single Rate:  GBP 180.00  (US $266) 
Double Rate: GBP 190.00  (US $281)

Rates include breakfast and guest room high speed Internet and VAT.
Rates honored 3 days pre and post event.

Substitution of names for reserved rooms may be made
at any time without penalty Cancellation without penalty up to 24
hours prior to scheduled arrival 1 night’s stay as cancellation fee
for cancellation less than 24 hours prior to scheduled, no-show or
non-arrival Early departure fee of GBP 50.00  (US $74) should 24
hours notice not be provided by guest



The schedule for the IAB and IESG events are:

  • Monday, 4 May: IESG only
  • Tuesday, 5 May: IAB only
  • Wednesday, 6 May: Joint IESG and IAB
  • Thursday, 7 May: IESG only
  • Friday, 8 May: IAB only

Proposed Topics

  • Review of Programs. Which ones are still needed? Who leads (ideally we'll figure this out before the retreat)? Do we need any new programs?
  • Additional R.F.C. streams (with Heather)
  • RSOC Program size/membership
  • [Dave] "Transition Strategies" (Ref: Steve Crocker email thread "Possible IAB agenda item: transition strategies")
  • "External affairs", relations to policy world, and travel people want to do
  • Communicating the IAB
  • I* meeting (both joint day and maybe in detail on alone day)
  • IANA transition
  • [Erik] Architectural considerations for encapsulation (SPUD / RTG UDP encap for tunneling / etc.)
  • [Dave] Technical problems caused by inter-SDO disagreements, including:
    • DHCP vs RA debates caused by 3GPP not supporting DHCP
    • SNMP/YANG vs WS-Management vs others (opendaylight, etc) causing mismatch in information models
    • Mismatch in information models across IoT consortia, as pointed out in plenary talk
    • Others?
  • SDN, what's being done, and what clarity we have around what that even is: who (SDO) is doing what? is it clear for the community? do we need to strengthen our liaisons with related SDOs (such as ONF, ...). Should this be discussed with IESG?

DRAFT AGENDA (verision 4, 2015-05-07)

Tuesday 2015-05-05 (IAB only)

  • 09:00-10:30: Programs: work we want to do, how we want to do it pt 1 (Ted)
  • 10:30-10:50: Break
  • 10:50-11:50: Programs pt 2 (Ted)
  • 11:50-12:00: Liaison Shepherds (Ralph)
  • 12:00-12:45: Technical transition strategies (see mail from Steve Crocker) (Dave)
  • 12:45-13:30: "External affairs", travel, technical influence of policy makers (Andrew)
  • 13:30-14:30: Lunch
  • 14:30-15:00: Parking lot 0
  • 15:00-15:30: SDN: who, what, co-ordination issues, and so on (Marc)
  • 15:30-16:00: Break
  • 16:00-16:30: Parking lot 1
  • 16:30-17:00: Review of items to be discussed with the IESG on the joint day (All)

Wednesday 2015-05-06 (IAB + IESG)

(from http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/RetreatInfo)

0900-1200 morning session

  • Results of program discussion, things IESG might want (Andrew), 60 mins
  • Discussion of privacy program status and next steps at the IAB (Ted), 30 mins
  • Interaction with other SDOs, how much we know what is going out there (Suzanne, Alia, Brian?), 60 mins
  • Building an identity for IETF for outreach/new participant/funding/etc purposes (Jari, Kathy), 30 mins

1200-1330 lunch

1330-1630 afternoon session

  • How have recent contributions from national regulatory authorities worked out (e.g., lmap, paws) and how can they work better in the future (Kathleen??), 60 mins
  • State of IANA transition (Russ), 30mins
  • I* debrief (Jari), 30 mins
  • Parking slot, 60 mins

Friday 2015-05-08 (IAB only)

  • 09:00-10:30: Architectural considerations for encapsulation (SPUD / general UDP encap in tunneling / etc.) (Erik)
  • 10:30-10:50: Break
  • 10:50-12:30: RSOC program size and membership; new R F C stream (Heather, Andrew, Russ)
  • 12:30-13:30: Technical problems caused by inter-SDO disagreements (Dave)
  • 13:30-14:30: Lunch
  • 14:30-15:00: Programs redux: new things from retreat? (Ted)
  • 15:00-15:30: Communicating the IAB (Greg Wood)
  • 15:30-15:50: Break
  • 15:50-16:10: I*, IANA, and so on redux (Andrew, Jari, Ted) (includes approving IPROC)
  • 16:10-16:40: Parking lot 2
  * Standards for the higher layer in IOT applications (Jari)
  • 16:40-16:45: draft-iab-privsec-confidentiality-threat (Ted, Brian)
  • 16:45-17:00: Retreat evaluation (All)