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The following topics have been scheduled for tech plenaries.
The following topics have been scheduled for tech plenaries.


===IETF 102 Montreal (July 2018)===
===IETF 106 Singapore (November 2019)===


No topic scheduled yet.
No topic scheduled yet.


===IETF 103 Bangkok (November 2018)===
===IETF 107 Vancouver (March 2020)===


No topic scheduled yet.
No topic scheduled yet.


==Current Ideas Queue==
==Topics suggested in post-IETF 105 questionnaire feedback==
 
Architectural problems
  More prospective analysis of where technology is going and where we'd like to see it going
  Network consolidation and internet architecture
  the hourglass revisited
  Why all function is creeping into the application layer
  Tussle and internet economics
  Impact of new layer 2 and wireless technologies on traditional IETF assumptions about layer 2
  the death of transit
  Impact of AI on protocol design
 
Decentralization
  Consensus
  Blockchain/Bitcoin


The following ideas are current; we should run down the next steps on these, moving them to
Security and privacy
  Privacy
  "Controllable security" ("How can we balance contradiction between service providers, network administrators, and end users?"
  Internet threat model
  Tor and onion routing


===Consolidation===
Applied/practical issues
  Implementation practice
  DNS operations challenges
  Operations failures
  Status of the rtcweb rollout, http/2, and QUIC
  DNS anycast
  DNS server attacks
  Enterprise use of SDN
  PCIe Bus
  Multi-access edge computing and its impact on metro networks
  CDNs
  Network monitoring
  5G and vehicular networking


See [https://www.ietf.org/blog/consolidation/ Jari's blog post] on the subject. Lee has notes on a few potential speakers. We've already spoken to Geoff Huston on this subject
Other
  Current hot topics
  Citizen technology
  Any more controversial content


===The Internet and Futurism===
==Current Ideas Queue==


Following up on discussions around the Singapore plenary, ask a science fiction author to come riff on the future of the Internet for a while. See e.g. [https://media.ccc.de/v/34c3-9270-dude_you_broke_the_future Charlie Stross at CCC in 2017]
The following ideas are current:  


Next step: invite Charlie Stross for a tech chat?
===Consolidation===


===Straws and Camels===
See [https://www.ietf.org/blog/consolidation/ Jari's blog post] on the subject. Lee has notes on a few potential speakers. We've already spoken to Geoff Huston on this subject. We haven't come up with something coherent to say here; the next step in a workshop, the report out from which might involve a plenary.


At IETF 101, there was an active topic of discussion in DNSOP how successful protocols get overloaded; this could be expanded into a general topic on the lifecycle of protocol ecosystems.
===Decentralized Internet===


Next step: ask Suzanne for ideas?
Partially related to consolidation, an introduction to current work in decentralization of Internet infrastructure. Melinda to identify possible speakers and invite them for tech talks.


===Hub of All Things===
===Straws and Camels===


[https://hubofallthings.com/ Hub Of All Things] is a research project aimed at re-decentralization of data.
At IETF 101, there was an active topic of discussion in DNSOP [https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/101/materials/slides-101-dnsop-sessa-the-dns-camel-01.pdf how successful protocols get overloaded]; this could be expanded into a general topic on the lifecycle of protocol ecosystems.


Next step: invite Jon Crowcroft for a tech chat?
Next step: Suzanne developing the concept.


===Snowden +N years===
===Snowden +N years===


Review how the IETF has done on the problem of pervasive surveillance since [https://tools.ietf.org/html/7258 RFC7258], and look forward to the next challenges in the space.
Review how the IETF has done on the problem of pervasive surveillance since [https://tools.ietf.org/html/7258 RFC7258], and look forward to the next challenges in the space. Alissa as IETF privacy expert; externals (Allison to schedule tech chat with Dierdre Mulligan)


===Future of Remote Participation in the IETF===
===Future of Remote Participation in the IETF===
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Look forward to technical developments in remote participation technologies, and foster a discussion about how this affects how we work. (Since the IESG runs the meeting program, this seems like one to discuss in close cooperation with the IESG)
Look forward to technical developments in remote participation technologies, and foster a discussion about how this affects how we work. (Since the IESG runs the meeting program, this seems like one to discuss in close cooperation with the IESG)


===The Cryptographic Lens===
===The Web PKI: What we've learned===
 
Watch [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQBIs0BUVh4 the YouTube video]
 
Next step: invite Shafi Goldwasser for a tech chat?
 
===Data Driven Security===


[http://www.stanford.edu/class/ee380/Abstracts/120111.html Data Driven Security]: the abstract is six years old but the topic is not stale.
Wrap-up of recent developments/improvements in the web PKI -- how we got to the messy place, and why it's not as bad as it used to be.


Next step: invite [http://cseweb.ucsd.edu/~savage/ Stefan Savage] for a tech chat?
Speakers: TBD


===Operational Considerations===
Next step: wait for it to get even more better.


(Of Anything)
===Privacy update===


Next step: ask Lee for ideas?
Corinne Cath suggested the following speakers:


===The Lack of Low Justice in the Internet===
* [http://www0.cs.ucl.ac.uk/staff/G.Danezis/ George Danezis]
* [https://www.emilianodc.com/ Emiliano de Cristofaro]
* [https://cs.uwaterloo.ca/%7Eiang/ Ian Goldberg]
* [http://www.cs.cornell.edu/%7Eshmat/ Vitaly Shmatikov]
* [https://www.danielsolove.com/ Daniel Solove]
* [https://www.law.georgetown.edu/faculty/paul-ohm/ Paul Ohm]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilian_Edwards Lilian Edwards]


An intriguing question was raised [https://trammell.ch/post/2017-05-08-trust-the-internet/ a panel Brian sat on] in 2017: one issue with personal trust in the Internet is that there is no mechanism at all for "low justice" (the settlement of petty claims) among parties whose interaction is entirely Internet mediated. The current system for settlement of international disputes is quite poorly suited to this task.
===5G===
* [http://www.it.uc3m.es/pablo/ Pablo Sorano] (for IETF 108?)


Next step: think about this and figure out who we should talk to about it.
===BGP 30th Anniversary===
* Alissa pointed out that this summer is the 30th anniversary of the publication of BPG.  Kirk Lougheed?  (Also, June 2019 is the 20th anniversary of the publication of HTTP 1.1)


==Past Ideas==
==Past Ideas==
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* IoT and Augmented Reality / Overview of IETF IoT Topics
* IoT and Augmented Reality / Overview of IETF IoT Topics
* Naming and Privacy / Hostname Practice Considered Harmful
* Naming and Privacy / Hostname Practice Considered Harmful
* The Cryptographic Lens (watch [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQBIs0BUVh4 the YouTube video])
* [http://www.stanford.edu/class/ee380/Abstracts/120111.html Data Driven Security]
* The Internet and Futurism
* Hub of All Things
* The Lack of Low Justice in the Internet

Latest revision as of 18:18, 18 September 2019

Scheduled Topics

The following topics have been scheduled for tech plenaries.

IETF 106 Singapore (November 2019)

No topic scheduled yet.

IETF 107 Vancouver (March 2020)

No topic scheduled yet.

Topics suggested in post-IETF 105 questionnaire feedback

Architectural problems

 More prospective analysis of where technology is going and where we'd like to see it going
 Network consolidation and internet architecture
 the hourglass revisited
 Why all function is creeping into the application layer
 Tussle and internet economics
 Impact of new layer 2 and wireless technologies on traditional IETF assumptions about layer 2
 the death of transit
 Impact of AI on protocol design

Decentralization

 Consensus
 Blockchain/Bitcoin

Security and privacy

 Privacy
 "Controllable security" ("How can we balance contradiction between service providers, network administrators, and end users?"
 Internet threat model
 Tor and onion routing

Applied/practical issues

 Implementation practice
 DNS operations challenges
 Operations failures
 Status of the rtcweb rollout, http/2, and QUIC
 DNS anycast
 DNS server attacks
 Enterprise use of SDN
 PCIe Bus
 Multi-access edge computing and its impact on metro networks
 CDNs
 Network monitoring
 5G and vehicular networking

Other

 Current hot topics
 Citizen technology
 Any more controversial content

Current Ideas Queue

The following ideas are current:

Consolidation

See Jari's blog post on the subject. Lee has notes on a few potential speakers. We've already spoken to Geoff Huston on this subject. We haven't come up with something coherent to say here; the next step in a workshop, the report out from which might involve a plenary.

Decentralized Internet

Partially related to consolidation, an introduction to current work in decentralization of Internet infrastructure. Melinda to identify possible speakers and invite them for tech talks.

Straws and Camels

At IETF 101, there was an active topic of discussion in DNSOP how successful protocols get overloaded; this could be expanded into a general topic on the lifecycle of protocol ecosystems.

Next step: Suzanne developing the concept.

Snowden +N years

Review how the IETF has done on the problem of pervasive surveillance since RFC7258, and look forward to the next challenges in the space. Alissa as IETF privacy expert; externals (Allison to schedule tech chat with Dierdre Mulligan)

Future of Remote Participation in the IETF

Look forward to technical developments in remote participation technologies, and foster a discussion about how this affects how we work. (Since the IESG runs the meeting program, this seems like one to discuss in close cooperation with the IESG)

The Web PKI: What we've learned

Wrap-up of recent developments/improvements in the web PKI -- how we got to the messy place, and why it's not as bad as it used to be.

Speakers: TBD

Next step: wait for it to get even more better.

Privacy update

Corinne Cath suggested the following speakers:

5G

BGP 30th Anniversary

  • Alissa pointed out that this summer is the 30th anniversary of the publication of BPG. Kirk Lougheed? (Also, June 2019 is the 20th anniversary of the publication of HTTP 1.1)

Past Ideas

These ideas were in an older version of this queue, and have "timed out" or were otherwise not acted upon, but are kept here in list form, as a reminder that we've considered them:

  • Challenges to HTTPS Adoption in Media Websites
  • IoT and Augmented Reality / Overview of IETF IoT Topics
  • Naming and Privacy / Hostname Practice Considered Harmful
  • The Cryptographic Lens (watch the YouTube video)
  • Data Driven Security
  • The Internet and Futurism
  • Hub of All Things
  • The Lack of Low Justice in the Internet