IAB, IESG and IEEE 802 Executive Committee Minutes of the 12 February 2013 Virtual Meeting Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat ATTENDEES ------------------- Bernard Aboba, IAB Chair Ross Callon, IAB Clint Chaplin, 802.11 Wireless Next Generation Chair Benoit Claise, IESG Spencer Dawkins, IAB Ralph Droms, IESG Donald Eastlake 3rd Stephen Farrell, IESG Norman Finn Howard Frazier, 802.3 MIB Task Group Chair Patricia Gerndon Eric Gray, IETF Liaison Manager to IEEE 802.1 Tony Jeffree, 802.1 Chair Roger Marks, 802.16 Chair Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat Paul Nikolich, 802 Chair Glenn Parsons, 802.1 vice chair, RAC chair, IEEE-SA BOG Pete Resnick, IESG Dan Romascanu, IETF/IEEE-SA Liaison Dorothy Stanley, 802.11 Liaison to IETF Michael Johas Teener, IEEE 802.1 Audio/Video Bridging Task Group Chair Geoff Thompson, 802.23 Chair and EC member Pat Thaler, 802 Vice-Chair REGRETS ------------------- Subir Das, 802.21 Chair Adrian Farrel, IESG Russ Housley, IETF Chair Bruce Kraemer, IEEE 802.11 Chair Jon Rosdahl, 802 Executive Secretary, 802.11 Vice Chair Sean Turner, IESG MINUTES ------------------- 1. Roll Call, Agenda Bashing, Minutes Approval Dan Romascanu called out the roll (see above). The minutes of the 17 December 2012 virtual meeting were approved. 2. Review of Other Action Items from Previous Meetings (not part of the shared items list) IN PROGRESS - John D'Ambrosia will add a page to the IEEE 802 website listing their current liaison relationships. NEW - Ross Callon and Ralph Droms to send info about guest passes to IEEE 802 Orlando to IAB and IESG (respectively). - Pat Thaler to send info about WebEx session with 802 overview to IAB and IESG. - Cindy Morgan to check about Orlando hotel logistics re internet access and room for executive session. 3. Preparations and agenda of the 3/16 face-to-face leadership meeting in Orlando Dan Romascanu briefly presented the draft agenda for the face-to-face meeting scheduled for 16 March 2013 [http://www.iab.org/wp-content/IAB- uploads/2013/02/2013-03-16-f2f-agenda-00.txt]. The group agreed to add an Executive Session to the agenda to discuss OpenStand. Dan Romascanu agreed to send out an updated agenda based on the discussion. Dan Romascanu reported that he would set up a wiki page for the meeting to facilitate attendance and food logistics. Cindy Morgan agreed to request an additional room for the Executive Session and check on the logistics of internet access during the meeting. Pat Thaler noted that IETF and IEEE 802 each agreed to set aside four guest passes for members of the other group to attend their meetings. Ross Callon and Ralph Droms agreed to send the information about the guest passes to the IAB and IESG. 4. RFC 4441bis - status report Spencer Dawkins reported that the IAB is currently reviewing draft-iab- rfc4441rev-01. Once the IAB has reviewed, the document will go through a two-week IAB Last Call and then a four-week IETF Call for Comments. 5. Areas of shared interest between the IETF and IEEE 802. For further details, see: http://www.iab.org/wp-content/IAB-uploads/2013/02/coordination-06.txt 1. IETF TRILL Fine-grained labeling and IEEE 802.1 tags - CLOSED 2. IETF BFD and IEEE 802.1AX Adrian Farrel reported via email that interoperability testing with three vendors has gone well. A new revision is expected before the Orlando IETF meeting. 3. IETF NVO3 and IEEE 802.1 DCB Adrian Farrell reported via email the new revisions of the Framework and Problem statement were posted in early February: - http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-nvo3-framework/ - http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-nvo3-overlay-problem-statement/ 4. IETF awareness of IEEE 802.1Q-2011 Pat Thaler reported that the team presenting the IEEE 802.1Q-2011 tutorial at IETF 86 is working on the presentation materials and planning to send it to the IETF EDU Team. A truncated version of the tutorial will be presented to the IAB and IESG during the Monday breakfast session. 5. Effect of virtualization on IEEE 802 architecture Glenn Parsons reported that he is working on an internet-draft to supplement his presentation on the IEEE 802 Proposed OUI Registry Restructuring. Benoit Claise agreed to check and see if there was room on the OPSAREA agenda if the draft needs more discussion. 6. IETF EMU and IEEE 802.1X, 802.11 and 802.16 security based on EAP - CLOSED 7. IETF Ethernet MIB, ADSL MIB and IEEE 802.3 Benoit Claise reported that a draft is being discussed on the working group mailing list. Dan Romascanu reported that the document is going though the 802 publication process and is likely to be discussed at the 802 plenary in Orlando. Howard Frazier added that the current timeline would have the document as an approved IEEE standard in late June or early July 2013. 8. IETF 6LOWPAN and IEEE 802.15 Ralph Droms reported that he and Clint Powell are monitoring the ongoing work, and that the action item remains open. 9. IETF PAWS WG and 802.11, 802.19, 802.22 Dan Romascanu reported that the use cases document [draft-ietf-paws- problem-stmt-usecases-rqmts] is in IETF Last Call, and that the draft has been sent to the IEEE. Pete Resnick reported that the document is on the 21 February 2013 IESG agenda for evaluation. 10. IETF IPPM and LMAP, and IEEE 802.16 Metrology Study Group Dan Romascanu reported that there will be a BOF on Large-Scale Measurement of Broadband Performance (LMAP) at IETF 86. 11. IETF Mobile IP and EC OmniRAN Study Group Roger Marks reported that he would check with Max Riegel about the status of a liaison statement from the OmniRAN Study Group to IETF. 12. IETF HOKEY and IEEE 802.21 - CLOSED 13. IETF MIF and IEEE 802.21 No update was provided. 14. IETF IPFIX Information Elements for Data Link monitoring Dan Romascanu reported that IETF IPFIX working group is reviewing comments provided by 802.1 and planning to address those comments in the next version of the document. 15. IETF RADIUS attributes for IEEE 802 networks Benoit Claise reported that the IETF RADEXT working group is working to address comments on the document from 802.11. 16. IEEE802.1Q SRP (and Gen2 updates) and RSVP/SIP 17. IEEE 802.1AS/1588 and NTP 18. 802.1AS/1588, 802.1Q time aware shaper(s) and RTP Items 16-18 were discussed together. Michael Johas Teener reported that work to date has used SIP and SDP, and that he is looking into other communities and IETF working groups like DISPATCH and CORE to see if they need to be involved; there is a challenge in getting cross-membership fertilization between the groups. Norman Finn reported that they are exchanging emails and setting up joint meetings and WedEx sessions to facilitate more active cooperations between the interested parties. 19. Common OAM proposal Ralph Droms reported that the IETF TRILL WG is working on the OAM requirements and framework documents. 20. Use of TRILL as an alternative path selection protocol for use in 802.11 mesh networks Norman Finn reported that 802.1 and 802.11 are working so that 802.11 media can be in the middle of the network rather than just at the edges. The action item remains open.