IAB, IESG and IEEE 802 Executive Committee Minutes of the 30 September 2013 Virtual Meeting Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat ATTENDEES ------------------- Bernard Aboba Benoit Claise Spencer Dawkins Adrian Farrel Norman Finn Eric Gray Brian Haberman Bob Heile Michael Johas Teener Eliot Lear Ted Lemon Roger Marks Cindy Morgan Ray Pelletier Pete Resnick Max Riegel Jon Rosdahl Dan Romascanu Dorothy Stanley Pat Thaler Sean Turner Juan Carlos Zuniga REGRETS ------------------- Tony Jeffree Apurva Mody Paul Nikolich Glenn Parsons Lisa Perry Geoff Thompson MINUTES ------------------- 1. Roll Call, Agenda Bashing, Minutes Approval The minutes of the 17 June 2013 virtual meeting were approved. 2. Review of Other Action Items from Previous Meetings (not part of the shared items list) CLOSED - Jon Rosdahl and Ray Pelletier to provide options for next F2F meeting. - Brian Haberman will work with Michael Johas Teener to form a small design team to clarify the issues going on in the study group on Time Protocols Unification. 3. November meetings The group briefly reviewed the IETF BOFs [http://trac.tools.ietf.org/ bof/trac/#] and IEEE 802 PARs [http://www.ieee802.org/PARs.shtml] that will be under discussion at each group's November meeting. Brian Haberman noted that the proposed IETF 6LO working group (http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/6lo/charter/) is expected to be approved before the IETF's Vancouver meeting. Dan Romascanu noted that the Intelligent Transport Systems BOF may be related to work on IEEE 802.11p and 802.15. Juan Carlos Zuniga noted that a PAR on OmniRAN would be submitted to IEEE 802 shortly. Roger Marks reported that 802 is planning a tutorial on Wireless SDN in Access and Backhaul for 12 November 2013. Benoit Claise suggested an IETF tutorial to IEEE 802 on NETCONF and YANG at a future 802 meeting. The group agreed that such a tutorial would be beneficial. Benoit will draft a proposal for this tutorial. The July Plenary of the IEEE 802 seems a good target date (same continent, consecutive weeks). 4. RFC 4441bis Spencer Dawkins reported that the 4441rev team has gone through the comments received to date, and expects to have a new revision of the draft posted before the IETF 88 submission deadline. 5. Areas of shared interest between the IETF and IEEE 802. 1. IETF TRILL Fine-grained labeling and IEEE 802.1 tags - CLOSED 2. IETF BFD and IEEE 802.1AX Adrian Farrel reported that work oon draft-ietf-bfd-on-lags is progressing. There has been some successful interop testing based on prototypes, and product development is well-progressed at a number of vendors. There is currently a small amount of discussion about dynamic address discovery and whether to include it in the work or not. IANA has registered a MAC address (01-00-5E-90-00-01) and a UDP port number (6784) for this work. The document seems stable and ready for Working Group Last Call. 3. IETF NVO3 and IEEE 802.1 DCB Adrian Farrel reported that the problem statement document (draft-ietf- nvo3-overlay-problem-statement) has been approved for publication as an RFC and is currently with the RFC Editor. Adrian Farrel reported that a number of I-Ds that have been adopted for work by the working group may be of interest to the IEEE since they discuss the data plane: - draft-ietf-nvo3-framework provides a framework for the NVO3 solutions - draft-ietf-nvo3-use-case tries to pick out the most common use cases - draft-ietf-nvo3-dataplane-requirements attempts to list the requirements on an NVO3 data plane - draft-ietf-nvo3-gap-analysis considers existing protocols against the requirements. The solutions it currently examines are: NVGRE, VxLAN, VPLS, EVPN, and L3VPN. 4. IETF awareness of IEEE 802.1Q-2011 - CLOSED 5. Effect of virtualization on IEEE 802 architecture Pat Thaler reported that the RAC is close to approving the restructuring schema. Bob Grow and Glenn Parsons are the contact persons from the IEEE side. 6. IETF EMU and IEEE 802.1X, 802.11 and 802.16 security based on EAP - CLOSED 7. IETF Ethernet MIB, ADSL MIB and IEEE 802.3 Benoit Claise reported that draft-ietf-opsawg-rfc5066bis entered Working Group Last Call on 27 July 2013. Editorial changes are expected, and the next version will progress to IETF Last Call. 8. IETF 6LOWPAN and IEEE 802.15 - CLOSED 9. IETF PAWS WG and 802.11, 802.19, 802.22 Pete Resnick reported that the use cases document was published as RFC 6953. The protocol document (draft-ietf-paws-protocol) remains under discussion in the Working Group, but will likely go to Working Group Last Call sometime around the Vancouver IETF meeting. Dorothy Stanley took and action to make sure that IEEE 802.11 provides comments on the draft. 10. IETF IPPM and LMAP, and IEEE 802.16 Metrology Study Group Dan Romascanu reported that the LMAP Working Group has been chartered in the IETF. Roger Marks reported that work is progressing slowly in the IEEE 802.16 Metrology Study Group. This item will be closed for now, but may re-open if/when it becomes clear that interaction is needed. 11. IETF Mobile IP and EC OmniRAN Study Group Max Riegal reported that the Study Group is working on a PAR to submit for consideration at the IEEE 802 November meeting. He noted that the PAR is written for the lower layers, but that during the project there will be some interaction with IETF work on the higher layers. 12. IETF HOKEY and IEEE 802.21 - CLOSED 13. IETF MIF and IEEE 802.21 The group agreed to close this item for now, as the current work does not overlap. Ted Lemon noted that there may be a new shared work item on naming in layer 2 networks. Ted will work with Juan Carlos Zuniga to draft a description for the new shared work item. 14. IETF IPFIX Information Elements for Data Link monitoring Benoit Claise reported that a new version of the document has been posted; the author expects to submit one more (hopefully final) version before the IETF 88 submission deadline. 15. IETF RADIUS attributes for IEEE 802 networks Benoit Claise reported that draft-ietf-radext-ieee802ext has been through a third Working Group Last Call. Bernard Aboba reported that there is one major issue, and that the authors will post a proposed resolution to the issue shortly. 16. IEEE802.1Q SRP (and Gen2 updates) and RSVP/SIP This item will remain open through the end of October 2013 in order to see if there is any coordination to be done. 17. IEEE 802.1AS/1588 and NTP This item will remain open, although it is more dependent on coordination between IEEE 802.1 and 1588 than it is with IETF. 18. 802.1AS/1588, 802.1Q time aware shaper(s) and RTP This item will remain open through the end of October 2013 in order to see if there is any coordination to be done. 19. Common OAM proposal Dan Romascanu reported that the TRILL WG recently sent a liaison to 802.1. This item will remain open, as communication is ongoing. 20. Use of TRILL as an alternative path selection protocol for use in 802.11 mesh networks - CLOSED 21. 6tsch Ted Lemon reported that the 6TISCH Working Group has been chartered. This item will remain open, as the work is just starting. 6. New work areas The group agreed to add a work items on CAPWAP work and IEEE 802.11 No work item will be added for SARP. Brian will follow the discussions in the INTAREA WG. 7. Review of Action Items, date of the next virtual meeting - Jon Rosdahl and Ray Pelletier (and Cindy Morgan) to send Doodle poll about next F2F meeting. - Benoit Claise to a draft proposal for tutorial on NETCONF/YANG for IEEE 802 sometime in 2014 (probably July). - Juan Carlos Zuniga and Ted Lemon to draft a description of new shared work item on naming layer 2 networks. - Benoit Claise to draft description of new shared work item on CAPWAP work and IEEE 802.11 - Brian Haberman to follow up the SARP proposal in the INTAREA WG. - Dan Romascanu to set up a Doodle for the next coordination teleconference, week of 27 January 2014.